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标题: 鏖战鹿城,一杯红酒改局 [打印本页]

作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 14:28
标题: 鏖战鹿城,一杯红酒改局
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 14:31

作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 14:55
鏖战鹿城 象棋天使校正 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4199999948999999999999212324999937999999509999999999992889999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]鏖战鹿城(红先黑胜)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 15:00
鏖战鹿城 象棋天使校正[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999889999995024232299999999304142991099999999998968[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]鏖战鹿城(红先黑胜)[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]50403040888042605949101949484050806050516061515061416858483819153837584837474838473738283747151747481737414428384849375724345759[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 15:00
鏖战鹿城 象棋天使校正[/quote] 你这个咋走出来的呢?
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 15:02
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 15:05
[/quote] 你的结论要附上走法,便于大家研究。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 15:08
标题: 鏖战鹿城 红先黑胜 象棋天使校正
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 15:17
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 15:19
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 15:23
鏖战鹿城局的复杂程度在江湖七星之上,需要仔细地研究!
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 15:39
标题: 鏖战鹿城 的确红先黑胜。红方不吃士,也是黑胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]黑如士5退4?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]红如车一平三?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 15:48
第10回合黑走车2进1!就胜了。
作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 15:57
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]红如车一平三或帅四平五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]黑如将4进1?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]黑如士5退4?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]红如车一平三?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]黑如将5平6?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]红如帅五退一?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]红车杀象后,形成黑无进取的局面,红必胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]红如车三平五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]黑长杀必须变招,黑没有进取,红必胜局面![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 15:59
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2]黑如将4进1?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]黑如士5退4?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]红如车一平三?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]黑如将5平6?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]红如帅五退一?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]红车杀象后,形成黑无进取的局面,红必胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]红如车三平五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]黑长杀必须变招,黑没有进取,红必胜局面![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 16:30
标题: 鏖战鹿城 确实是红先黑胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2]黑如将4进1?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]黑如士5退4?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]红如车一平三?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]黑如将5平6?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]红如帅五退一?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13]红车杀象后,形成黑无进取的局面,红必胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]红如车三平五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]黑长杀必须变招,黑没有进取,红必胜局面![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment2_27]
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 16:34
第15回合变招走卒4平3;黑方仍然可以取胜。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 16:41
一杯红酒 发表于 2014-12-24 15:57

黑方续走卒5平4后仍然可以取胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]黑如士5退4?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]红如车一平三?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]黑如将5平6?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]红如帅五退一?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13]红车杀象后,形成黑无进取的局面,红必胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]红如车三平五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]黑长杀必须变招,黑没有进取,红必胜局面![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 16:47
象棋天使 发表于 2014-12-24 16:41
黑方续走卒5平4后仍然可以取胜。
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黑方续走卒5平4后仍然可以取胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]黑如士5退4?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13]红车杀象后,形成黑无进取的局面,红必胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]红如车三平五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 16:52
标题: 鏖战鹿城 确实是红先黑胜。黑方续走卒5平4后仍然可以取胜。
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 16:57
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2014-12-24 17:04 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]红车这步占领防守要点,捎带产生的对士的捉应该是闲!||双方不变可否认定和局?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]红选择这样走也是非常复杂,黑也估计赢不到![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 17:00
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2014-12-24 17:02 编辑

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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 17:23
一杯红酒 发表于 2014-12-24 16:57

红方一将一捉,黑方出将进将应是两闲,应由红方变招,如不变判负。
作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 17:33
第27条棋例通则
27.3占据防守要点,立即构成简明和棋,附带产生的捉士相(象),按闲处理。

如果这样将5平6应该视为劣变,红可以速和!

红在第8回合还可以选择车三退四,虽然复杂,黑也赢不到!

作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 17:35

第27条棋例通则
27.3占据防守要点,立即构成简明和棋,附带产生的捉士相(象),按闲处理。

如果这样将5平6应该视为劣变,红可以速和!

红在第8回合还可以选择车三退四,虽然复杂,黑也赢不到!

作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-24 17:41
标题: 鏖战鹿城 如果第8回合走车三退四也是黑胜。
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 17:45
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]黑如士5退4?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]红如车一平三?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]黑如将5平6?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]红如帅五退一?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]红如车三平五?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]红车这步占领防守要点,捎带产生的对士的捉应该是闲!||双方不变可否认定和局?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]红选择这样走也是非常复杂,黑也估计赢不到![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-24 17:47
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2014-12-24 17:51 编辑

最好在原帖讨论,同样主题最好不要多开新帖!将5平6变例,红如果走车三退四,你那样走,红帅进一,黑就危险了!


作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-25 19:52
一杯红酒 发表于 2014-12-24 17:45

鏖战鹿城,将5平6变例讨论。
依照《中国象棋规则》(2011版)26.2  守和只有一个进攻子时,占据守和要点,附带产生的捉士象按“闲”处理。本局走到21回合时,红方除了有一车之外,还拥有三个过河兵,并且有一个已接近九宫,根本不符合要求,所以,此时形成的红方一将一捉对黑方两闲应由红方变招,不变判负。在棋例18和参考图22已说得非常详细了。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-25 20:05
象棋天使 发表于 2014-12-24 17:41

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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]红如车一平三?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]黑如将5平6?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]红车这步占领防守要点,捎带产生的对士的捉应该是闲!||双方不变可否认定和局?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-25 20:57
象棋天使 发表于 2014-12-25 20:05

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]黑如士5退4?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]红如车一平三?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]黑如将5平6?||红胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]红如帅五退一?||黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]红车这步占领防守要点,捎带产生的对士的捉应该是闲!||双方不变可否认定和局?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]红选择这样走也是非常复杂,黑也估计赢不到![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-25 21:11
象棋天使 发表于 2014-12-25 19:52
鏖战鹿城,将5平6变例讨论。
依照《中国象棋规则》(2011版)26.2  守和只有一个进攻子时,占据守和要点 ...

第一,
2011版规则是试行版,没有正式使用;1999版为正式版;在本例的问题上,应该以1999版为准。
第二,
红3个过河兵,与循环局面没有关系,红有关系的只有车,就是按2011版规则,也是闲。
作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-25 21:35
一杯红酒 发表于 2014-12-25 20:57

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作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-25 21:37
一杯红酒 发表于 2014-12-25 21:11
第一,
2011版规则是试行版,没有正式使用;1999版为正式版;在本例的问题上,应该以1999版为准。
第二, ...

那只是你的一厢情愿呀!
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-12-25 21:44
一杯红酒 发表于 2014-12-25 21:11
第一,
2011版规则是试行版,没有正式使用;1999版为正式版;在本例的问题上,应该以1999版为准。
第二, ...

红一将一捉,不变判负
作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-25 22:02
象棋天使 发表于 2014-12-25 21:37
那只是你的一厢情愿呀!

目前讨论纠纷,只能按1999版规则!我把局面发到了很多群,都认为是闲。
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-25 23:25
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]本局脱帽完成!||||以后:||||黑有||1,象7进5(异常复杂,结果正和局)||2,车4平1(异常复杂,结果正和局)||3,车4平9(异常复杂,结果正和局)||||如果黑车4进4,黑不利![/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]原局这步是不成立的![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]形成黑不利局面![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]黑不利局面![/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-25 23:41


作者: 象棋天使    时间: 2014-12-26 07:57
标题: 再加一兵,红方棋势太强,应是红先胜。
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-12-26 08:17
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]本局脱帽完成![/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2014-12-30 15:23


作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2015-1-7 14:48
这局尾盘,也是黑攻击,红守局面,但红棋机会也是很多的,黑稍有错误,红棋就可胜,显然比那种单方攻击一方无胜机苦守的局激烈精彩!
作者: 千古少年    时间: 2015-1-8 09:23
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作者: 千古少年    时间: 2015-1-8 09:36
尾盘都是一个循环的过程,加九路兵和一路兵的结果都是一样吧......
作者: 千古少年    时间: 2015-1-8 09:50
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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2015-1-8 12:20
本帖最后由 一杯红酒 于 2015-1-8 12:22 编辑
千古少年 发表于 2015-1-8 09:50

你拆的一版二版,我已经发现黑有妙手可以胜,改成了三版,请拆解三版吧,确实不一样呀!
拆解清楚确实是很难的!

作者: 千古少年    时间: 2015-1-8 14:58
你看44楼的,黑将5平6后的走法,结果黑有办法把红一路边兵吃掉后,又恢复到原先的局面......
作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2015-1-8 16:10
千古少年 发表于 2015-1-8 14:58
你看44楼的,黑将5平6后的走法,结果黑有办法把红一路边兵吃掉后,又恢复到原先的局面......

你这样走,红胜,我已经在三版提示谱里有说明;你可以列出你的谱来讨论!
作者: 千古少年    时间: 2015-1-8 16:51
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-1-8 16:10
你这样走,红胜,我已经在三版提示谱里有说明;你可以列出你的谱来讨论!

从21步开始,你好像走的是车9平6将军,如果走车9进4将军呢?
作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2015-1-8 17:01
千古少年 发表于 2015-1-8 16:51
从21步开始,你好像走的是车9平6将军,如果走车9进4将军呢?

局面黑棋必须进取,不进取必然要输的,问下你车9进4将军,帅四退一,黑棋如何进取呢?一将一要杀是违规的哦!

作者: 千古少年    时间: 2015-1-8 17:08
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-1-8 16:10
你这样走,红胜,我已经在三版提示谱里有说明;你可以列出你的谱来讨论!

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作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2015-1-8 18:05
千古少年 发表于 2015-1-8 17:08

1:三版改局的结论?
2:将5平6变例的结论?
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作者: 千古少年    时间: 2015-1-8 18:19
一杯红酒 发表于 2015-1-8 18:05
1:三版改局的结论?
2:将5平6变例的结论?

这么走就很复杂了......
作者: 魔帝大人    时间: 2015-1-9 09:59
千古少年 发表于 2015-1-8 18:19
这么走就很复杂了......

复杂就好吗? 复杂就精彩吗?复杂就是高水平吗?
作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2015-1-9 10:03
本帖最后由 菜鸟来玩 于 2015-1-9 10:04 编辑
魔帝大人 发表于 2015-1-9 09:59
复杂就好吗? 复杂就精彩吗?复杂就是高水平吗?

54楼跟53楼同一人,此人在群里说,自己不给自己顶贴,不会有这么高的人气。呵呵
作者: 魔帝大人    时间: 2015-1-9 10:07
那菜鸟和魔帝同一人吗?
作者: 菜鸟来玩    时间: 2015-1-9 10:13
魔帝高高在上,菜鸟岂能与他相提并论。

作者: 千古少年    时间: 2015-1-9 10:59
菜鸟来玩 发表于 2015-1-9 10:03
54楼跟53楼同一人,此人在群里说,自己不给自己顶贴,不会有这么高的人气。呵呵

如果不是同一个人呢?
作者: 一杯红酒    时间: 2015-1-11 15:05
鏖战鹿城局,车兵卒的攻杀,激烈精彩复杂多变程度远远超过江湖七星,黑虽然优势,红也一直有可胜力量和胜机,可以达到红黑任选,和棋算客户胜的标准!

作者: chouzhouyu    时间: 2020-1-13 14:47
顶一下。发现了一局加九路红边相的局。




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