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[江湖局研究] 排局研究

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 楼主| 发表于 2017-7-25 21:39:37 | 显示全部楼层
已经付过邮资,贴了邮票,挂号寄出的。
 楼主| 发表于 2017-7-25 21:40:20 | 显示全部楼层
写的是全名
发表于 2017-7-26 06:46:25 | 显示全部楼层
嗯嗯,那我就耐心等候  ,  感謝敖兄
 楼主| 发表于 2017-7-29 20:33:54 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2017-7-31 21:20:56 | 显示全部楼层
報告敖兄與王兄,今日我已收到[象棋排局新編]壹本

定會好好學習研究與珍藏
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-1 10:33:36 | 显示全部楼层
半个多月真让我操心,现在收到就好!
发表于 2017-8-2 10:11:32 | 显示全部楼层
敖兄真是令我感動

另外,我想確定一下王首成兄今年是否還有在編或準備出版另外的棋書 呢?

  
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-2 16:37:03 | 显示全部楼层
陈兄可以直接咨询一下王兄。
发表于 2017-8-3 09:12:52 | 显示全部楼层
感谢敖日西老师赠书!书籍在7月中旬收到!
发表于 2017-8-3 19:46:41 | 显示全部楼层
陈兄您好,下半年还有书出版,有一本收录了您的联吟局,届时寄给您。到时候顺寄其他的一本今年出版的棋书给您留念。
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-3 20:34:37 | 显示全部楼层
承云医疾 发表于 2017-8-3 09:12
感谢敖日西老师赠书!书籍在7月中旬收到!

高老师不用客气!:
发表于 2017-8-3 21:00:04 | 显示全部楼层
bh22wsc 发表于 2017-8-3 19:46
陈兄您好,下半年还有书出版,有一本收录了您的联吟局,届时寄给您。到时候顺寄其他的一本今年出版的棋书给 ...

了解,謝謝

发表于 2017-8-4 12:25:30 | 显示全部楼层
陈兄客气,最近空余时间少,很少上网 不好意思!
发表于 2021-3-15 13:17:42 | 显示全部楼层
凌云子 发表于 2017-7-10 20:49
关于书名:
初定《凌云集》,
接着是《凌云子集》,

此书与《象棋排局新作》有相同吗?
发表于 2021-3-15 13:47:15 | 显示全部楼层
老鸽子 发表于 2021-3-15 13:17
此书与《象棋排局新作》有相同吗?

有《象棋排局新作》这本书吗?
《象棋排局新编》就是本贴主题的标题书
《排局新作》的作者是瑞龙,应该是属于艺术排局家著作。
发表于 2021-3-15 19:27:45 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢余老师!但瑞龙那本名叫《现代排局新作》,在下已找到。现在名称相近或相同的书很多,在下搞乱了。刚才搜了一下,又搜出一本王首成的、同是2017年出版的《江湖排局新作》,应该与本主题书有同。那就这样,在下便买一本王首成的《象棋江湖排局精解-古今名局赏析》,这本书在下了解,还不错,只是不知去哪里能买到。
发表于 2021-3-15 20:07:08 | 显示全部楼层
【作 者】敖日西,王首成著
【丛书名】象棋排局丛书
【形态项】 238
【出版项】 合肥:安徽科学技术出版社 , 2017.07
【ISBN号】978-7-5337-7258-1
【中图法分类号】G891.2
【原书定价】38.00
发表于 2021-3-15 20:08:07 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2021-3-16 09:37:33 | 显示全部楼层
老鸽子 发表于 2021-3-15 19:27
谢谢余老师!但瑞龙那本名叫《现代排局新作》,在下已找到。现在名称相近或相同的书很多,在下搞乱了。刚才 ...

王首成的《江湖排局新作》是收集汇编,而本主题书都是一个人的作品。

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发表于 2021-3-16 11:52:06 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢余老师的介绍!那本《古今名局赏析》里很多局在下都没见过,故很想拥有。本主题书也确实不错,但在下觉得它的唯一不足是:同型局的改编太多,有些反感,要买在下早买了。说实在的,在下与老师在很多方面都有不谋而合的认识。我也看过您的大量解局,只要您一出手就是不凡,就是意想不到!再次谢谢了!
发表于 2021-3-16 12:21:53 | 显示全部楼层
老鸽子 发表于 2021-3-16 11:52
谢谢余老师的介绍!那本《古今名局赏析》里很多局在下都没见过,故很想拥有。本主题书也确实不错,但在下觉 ...

实体书可能要上“孔夫子旧书网”了,价钱也不贵,不过电子书看看也不错。
 楼主| 发表于 2021-11-25 22:10:02 | 显示全部楼层
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]红优可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_30]
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-1 22:29:11 | 显示全部楼层
   河南科学技术出版社2000年5月李浭陶诒谟《奇胜巧和象棋谱》第102局 “边车联芝”。

    看见此局第一感觉,拙作《象棋排局新编》第124局 “时亨运泰”与此局撞车了,
详细对比二局后,黑边卒前进一格的“时亨运泰”,着法有了新的变化。

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 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-2 12:40:54 | 显示全部楼层
安徽科学技术出版社1993年12月丁章照杨明忠陈建国《象棋流行排局精选》第83局 “大鹏展翅(三)”。

原谱介绍:
    如图棋势又名“舍身为国”,原载于《象棋新编》,后经钟周印先生修改而成。


    钟周印,钟若文,钟化文是同一个人吗?
    (台湾新生报出版的钟化文《古今象棋残局新编第二集》也有介绍此局)


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[DhtmlXQ_comment43]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]先平将,黑可胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-2 12:42:50 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-2 13:49:35 | 显示全部楼层
上面二谱介绍此局第七回合第14着黑方均走卒5平4,而改走士5进6,应是台湾原位卒在"智弈象棋网"提出的。
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2006年起在"智弈象棋网"探讨此图,
我在2008年~2009年参与此讨论,始终认黑可胜。

 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-2 13:52:07 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 凌云子 于 2022-11-9 13:22 编辑

后来"智弈象棋网"消失了,关于此图的研究资料也未能保存下来。
         猫扑、铁血社区的倒下,天涯论坛、西祠胡同、人人网老一代的网络论坛逐渐没落了;短视频兴起……

http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... ad&tid=21229&extra=
2009年1月在华工发的贴探讨黑边卒在1.8位的图。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]这里有两种变法[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]还原为原来的棋  前面解过的 这里就不分析了 这样走下去是黑胜  ||如果车四退二 就又是和棋了 [/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]这里有两种变法[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]还原为原来的棋? 前面解过的 这里就不分析了 这样走下去是黑胜? ||如果车四退二 就又是和棋了 [/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]小橘梅 发现3·8位缺黒卒,yjr123先生补上去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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小橘梅,傅老师,赵老师参与讨论。




智弈只剩下网址链接http://www.zychess.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=5452


                             不幸中的万幸,在华工内部论坛灌水区08
›橘中秘排局研究会›灌水区08›“太平有象系列”
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... 9203&extra=page%3D1
                            2009年1月9号留了贴,具体如下


           黑卒在1.7位
                                 



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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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沉默2011年看过链接中智弈的贴子,也认为黑胜










 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-2 13:53:11 | 显示全部楼层
2010年,豫东棋人在泓弈象棋网贴出此局,没有人讨论。
http://www.hychess.com/thread-62608-1-120.html

 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-2 13:54:27 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=27409&extra=page%3D2&page=1
2011年沉默在华工重发此局,沉默,联吟客,yjr123,zhiqihuang,chouzhouyu,剑影¤独步,等棋友进行探讨。

 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-2 14:03:02 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 凌云子 于 2022-1-25 14:40 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_title]¤[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]敖日西[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]敖日西[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||高車如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
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