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 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-25 07:11:59 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 04:15
这辈子都没遇到有比你还无语的人

就棋论棋
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-25 07:19:48 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 凌云子 于 2022-1-25 07:41 编辑

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 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-25 07:37:56 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-24 07:02
还有这个变化你没去考虑?120楼及121楼,你咋去赢?

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发表于 2022-1-25 09:35:42 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 04:04
说了象是守子,可以长抓、常抓

长抓还分守子和进攻子?
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发表于 2022-1-25 10:30:39 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2022-1-25 10:59:24 | 显示全部楼层

156楼黑将5平4是闲,应由红方变,不变作负。
发表于 2022-1-25 11:08:15 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 09:35
长抓还分守子和进攻子?

士、象、未过河兵都是守子,本身可以常抓!
出书人对规则是出书人认为的,又不是裁判认为的!
我也可以成出书人,在棋规上写我认为的。
那书都旧了,还以旧棋规来说什么?
就算裁判认为守子不可以常抓,但我是不认可的!更不认可士不能常抓!本身常抓象的达成率底,常抓士的达成率更底,末过河的守子兵都能常抓,就守子士、守子象搞特殊?反正不管有没有这规则,我是不认可不能长抓象,更不认可不能长抓士。
发表于 2022-1-25 11:14:57 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 09:35
长抓还分守子和进攻子?

这作者居然把这局当黑胜了,你是想帮他?那你来解释下156、157、158楼的红和或红犯规黑胜问题
发表于 2022-1-25 11:21:08 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 10:59
156楼黑将5平4是闲,应由红方变,不变作负。

闲啥?平将带有抽车手段
发表于 2022-1-25 11:25:21 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 11:14
这作者居然把这局当黑胜了,你是想帮他?那你来解释下156、157、158楼的红和或红犯规黑胜问题

沒有誰幫誰啦

都是討論走法與規則本身

那個車兵聯合捉士應不犯規

一將一看卒也不犯規
发表于 2022-1-25 11:26:13 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 11:08
士、象、未过河兵都是守子,本身可以常抓!
出书人对规则是出书人认为的,又不是裁判认为的!
我也可以 ...

是这本书里的截图

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发表于 2022-1-25 11:28:10 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 剑影¤独步 于 2022-1-25 11:29 编辑
yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 10:59
156楼黑将5平4是闲,应由红方变,不变作负。

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你说那是犯规的话,这步带有三步成杀的长杀手段,那不就是算走闲了?你平帅带有卒一步抽车,那是闲的话,那我这步更是闲了
发表于 2022-1-25 12:00:44 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 11:21
闲啥?平将带有抽车手段

平将之前就存在抽车的手段,也就是说抽车和平将无关,算闲。
退一步说,走将帅作为应将而产生的捉也算闲。
发表于 2022-1-25 12:08:26 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 11:28
你说那是犯规的话,这步带有三步成杀的长杀手段,那不就是算走闲了?你平帅带有卒一步抽车,那是闲的话 ...

红方当然是长杀,建议你研究一下棋规,不要想当然。
发表于 2022-1-25 12:14:19 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 剑影¤独步 于 2022-1-25 12:25 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2022-1-25 11:25
沒有誰幫誰啦

都是討論走法與規則本身

你看见147楼没?他直接整盘成黑胜了,都不等我来辩论了!很明显这人的心态就是要用尽办法来当这是黑胜。
147楼他直接给黑胜,不管我来不来辩论,还有九十一楼还是一直用我昵称当残名,之前说了还这样,此行为足以证明人品不咋样。

发表于 2022-1-25 12:18:14 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 12:00
平将之前就存在抽车的手段,也就是说抽车和平将无关,算闲。
退一步说,走将帅作为应将而产生的捉也算闲 ...

就算156犯规,那157、158楼,你咋说?
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 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-25 12:20:35 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 12:00
平将之前就存在抽车的手段,也就是说抽车和平将无关,算闲。
退一步说,走将帅作为应将而产生的捉也算闲 ...

还有一点:弃卒抽车,不能判捉。
以卒换车,判闲。
理由:
因为过河兵卒的价值浮动,所以用一兵(卒)换一子或多子,均判闲。

发表于 2022-1-25 12:23:06 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 12:14
你看见147楼没?他直接整盘成黑胜了,都不等我来辩论了!很明显这人的心态就是要用尽办法来当这是黑胜。
...

这是讨论发表自己的观点,他认为黑胜,并整理了全局着法,你可以找到一个红方变着能够和棋,就能够推翻他的结论。
发表于 2022-1-25 12:29:44 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 12:23
这是讨论发表自己的观点,他认为黑胜,并整理了全局着法,你可以找到一个红方变着能够和棋,就能够推翻他 ...

昨天一直在跟他辩论,到中途不等我回来辩论,他直接摆全盘了,局面还导向黑胜
 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-25 12:30:03 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 12:18
就算156犯规,那157、158楼,你咋说?

关于158楼,在147楼给了比较完整的着法。


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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]    安徽科学技术出版社1993年12月丁章照杨明忠陈建国《象棋流行排局精选》第83局 “大鹏展翅(三)”。||    河南科学技术出版社2000年5月李浭陶诒谟《奇胜巧和象棋谱》第114局 “孔明借箭”。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]形成附图1的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]形成附图2的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_108]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_100]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_100]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_104]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_82]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_80]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_92]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_92]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_86]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_102]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_80]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_86]云库黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]下同附图3,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_84]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]形成附图3的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_63]红一将一杀,违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_94]形成附图4的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_98]红一将一杀,违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_134]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_134]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_98]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_108]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_97]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]红一将一杀,违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_104]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_90]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_94]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_94]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_82]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_84]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_81]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]红长杀,违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_61]下同附图3,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_61]下同附图3,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_48]与主变行子秩序不同,但殊途同归形成相同局面,着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]下同附图2,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]121楼[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_39]121楼[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_39]
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发表于 2022-1-25 12:32:37 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2022-1-25 12:23
这是讨论发表自己的观点,他认为黑胜,并整理了全局着法,你可以找到一个红方变着能够和棋,就能够推翻他 ...

他全局还有些棋规问题都没整清楚,他就草草的下了结果
发表于 2022-1-25 12:35:44 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 12:18
就算156犯规,那157、158楼,你咋说?

157楼最后红方已经变着,看黑方有无手段。
158楼应该是红方变着,好像变着也没有区别。
 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-25 12:36:44 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2022-1-25 12:18
就算156犯规,那157、158楼,你咋说?

157楼,已经在91楼,92楼,介绍过,你再看看


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发表于 2022-1-25 12:39:56 | 显示全部楼层
凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:30
关于158楼,在147楼给了比较完整的着法。

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发表于 2022-1-25 12:43:23 | 显示全部楼层
凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:36
157楼,已经在91楼,92楼,介绍过,你再看看

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你走吧!91、92楼没有退士变化
 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-25 12:47:07 | 显示全部楼层

158见147楼第三十回合红方车三平六变。
发表于 2022-1-25 12:51:29 | 显示全部楼层
凌云子 发表于 2022-1-25 12:47
158见147楼第三十回合红方车三平六变。

这那个落象了!!!让我说几遍?
 楼主| 发表于 2022-1-25 12:52:35 | 显示全部楼层
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]    安徽科学技术出版社1993年12月丁章照杨明忠陈建国《象棋流行排局精选》第83局 “大鹏展翅(三)”。||    河南科学技术出版社2000年5月李浭陶诒谟《奇胜巧和象棋谱》第114局 “孔明借箭”。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]形成附图1的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44]形成附图2的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_114]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_114]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_108]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_100]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_100]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_104]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_82]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_80]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_92]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_92]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_86]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_102]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_102]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_80]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_86]云库黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]下同附图3,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]形成附图3的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_63]红一将一杀,违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_94]形成附图4的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_98]红一将一杀,违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_134]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_134]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_98]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_108]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_97]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]红一将一杀,违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_104]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_90]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_94]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_94]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_82]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_84]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_81]下同附图4,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]红长杀,违例。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_61]下同附图3,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_61]下同附图3,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_48]与主变行子秩序不同,但殊途同归形成相同局面,着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]下同附图2,殊途同归着略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]
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