《炮兵残局探秘》部分棋局再讨论

天宇浪人 · 发表于 2016-2-25 09:36:12

近日得空，对拙著《炮兵残局探秘》进行了重新审查，发现了一些错误之处和可改进之处，现打算陆续在这里贴出，还请棋友们不吝指正！也欢迎大家多提意见和建议，如果将来再版的话（虽然概率很小，呵呵），可作修订。

yjr123 · 发表于 2016-3-7 10:48:30

这样需要几个回合？
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yjr123 · 发表于 2016-3-7 19:51:39

聨吟客发表于 2016-3-7 19:36
這樣是否速勝

速胜正确

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天宇浪人 · 发表于 2016-6-6 12:20:00

第148页“步调井然”局在这个帖子的第13楼有过一个改局，但前两天我觉得是不是改成下图形式更好（大体就是把原局的七路底相移至高位），增加了一些着法，另外图式更美观一些。
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-6 16:52:55

天宇浪人发表于 2016-5-6 16:48
是的，第回合黑象确实不应该落在中路，而是应该落在边路，谢谢指出！

此局馬兵雙相運用玄妙!!

天宇浪人 · 发表于 2016-5-6 16:48:32

是的，第回合黑象确实不应该落在中路，而是应该落在边路，谢谢指出！

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-6 16:32:50

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-6 16:17:22

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天宇浪人 · 发表于 2016-5-6 14:05:24

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第18页“曲线擒敌”局改成如下图式：
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这局同杨启忠老师的“千里逆袭”局在战略上有点类似，就是红马必须在黑方炮火的控制下想办法绕至右边做杀取胜。

有两点想说明一下：
1.我现把红左兵放在了原位，主要是为了全书的统一，我曾经认为，有些情况下，红兵从原位启动的一些着法没有什么技术性，但有些排局（如本书最后一局“精卫填海”），红兵排在原位倒有些意思。关于这一点有点纠结。
2.与原局相比，现在图式显得更整齐美观一些，且比原局又减少了1子（红仕），但我总觉得本局布子还是太多，能否再精简一些呢？我苦思不得修改方案。（其实如果没有黑炮，红马也必须按照这条线路绕至右边，但关键就在于如果没有黑炮，红兵在走到黑4路高士位置时，运用等着就可以伺机兵六平五杀了）

还请棋友们探讨一下。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-5 17:30:09

164樓可能黑勝,再改這樣, 是否成立滿意?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-5 10:58:29

天宇浪人发表于 2016-5-5 10:37
插一局。
110楼下图如果加一枚黑底卒，可以再增加5个回合，但是不是有点画蛇添足？

很好啊,呵呵呵..............

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-5 10:54:28

有點累,晚點再來玩

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-5 10:46:35

再改

這樣看看
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-5 10:44:07

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-5-5 10:52 编辑

發現大問題

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-5 10:38:30

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天宇浪人 · 发表于 2016-5-5 10:37:28

插一局。
110楼下图如果加一枚黑底卒，可以再增加5个回合，但是不是有点画蛇添足？
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-5 10:28:17

好像有點意思, 呵呵呵

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-5 09:28:29

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-5-5 09:33 编辑

魚與熊掌不可得兼,這樣是否就只能兵平一

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 23:36:19

也不對

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 23:22:28

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-5-4 23:24 编辑

這樣看看

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 23:13:06

不對,炮可打馬

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 23:06:58

還可像之前那樣增加低底卒

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 22:51:55

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-5-4 23:00 编辑

啊哈!!想到了,這樣就沒有兵平一變化,只有底兵平左,感覺較曲折也符合局名, 如何?

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 21:19:23

也走完吧

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 21:00:28

153 樓恐怕紅謀和都成問題, 失敗

yjr123 · 发表于 2016-5-4 20:12:02

聨吟客发表于 2016-5-4 16:24
嗯, 這才是最快法

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 16:33:12

那麼,再加一底兵如何? 能不能勝呢

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 16:24:50

yjr123 发表于 2016-5-4 15:36
11回合前兵平一怎么样？

嗯, 這才是最快法
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yjr123 · 发表于 2016-5-4 15:36:43

聨吟客发表于 2016-5-4 15:06
那就走完吧

11回合前兵平一怎么样？

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 15:26:01

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-5-4 15:27 编辑

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 15:18:33

140樓也要修飾

聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-5-4 15:06:18

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-5-4 15:29 编辑

那就走完吧

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yjr123 · 发表于 2016-5-4 12:50:07

排局讲究的是哪个着法最佳

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