這局能不能和

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聨吟客 发表于 2021-10-21 11:22
沒人研究嗎

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yjr123

剑影¤独步 发表于 2021-10-22 22:14

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剑影¤独步

yjr123 发表于 2021-10-23 10:25

那是一将一闲
黑没犯规。

老鸽子

《江湖特种排局》之“碧溪垂钓”原谱本身就有七路底相，相对于《湖涯集》之“双车投井”才是加相局。

周孟芳、朱鹤洲《象棋排局欣赏》、王首成《热门棋局揭秘》之“双车英姿”（七路底相局），均诠为和局。

老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2021-10-26 23:48
這個底相局嗎
有被詮為紅勝

是啊，“双车英姿》两局是诠释，就是《江湖特种排局》之”碧溪垂钓“，只是改个局名而已，三局图势相同。《湖涯集》之“双车投井”早年多诠为黑胜，正如余老师所说。

第二个加相局是《蕉竹斋》之”双车斗胜“加相局，而不是”碧溪垂钓“之加相局。朱鹤洲《江湖排局集成》之“双车斗胜”是诠释，只有其附局“双车斗胜变改局”（黑加右边象，红无相，因为原8•7兵局是红胜局），才是改编局。这则变改局在早年的周孟芳、朱鹤洲《象棋排局欣赏》中亦收录。

此类棋局改编者不多，本人一共只找到了9局，其中如：徐家亮、苏德龙《象棋排局百花谱》之“蜻蜓点水”，潘煜春拟局；苏德龙《棋局与故事》之“剑女射音”，这两局比较特别。实际上，此类局的棋型与着法都与“馈礼求和”系列有些相似。

老鸽子

第二个加相局，本人觉得没什么意义。因为《蕉竹斋》之“双车斗胜”，无相本就是红胜，为何还加相？且这里的加相，并无什么玄机，亦即：加相起反作用，有助于黑方防守。当然，这并不是说要否定黄先生的改局，总体而言，黄先生的多数改局都很优秀。

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