[原创]"新飞星" －小车马，hzsjy，yjr123

hzsjy · 发表于 2006-2-27 20:21:00

您好：

卒6平5红有兵五进一。

我的意见：
还是用主帖的图。着法还要修正。

小车马 · 发表于 2006-2-27 20:37:00

以下是引用hzsjy在2006-2-27 20:21:00的发言：

您好：

卒6平5红有兵五进一。

我的意见：
还是用主帖的图。着法还要修正。

这里红方根本没有炮三平五的棋

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-27 20:38:44编辑过]

hzsjy · 发表于 2006-2-27 21:27:00

呵呵：

29楼和31楼有误。抱歉！
以下如何？

WebCchess - [//v]

667 · 发表于 2006-2-27 21:35:00

以下是引用hzsjy在2006-2-27 21:27:00的发言：

呵呵：

29楼和31楼有误。抱歉！
以下如何？

16回合的兵四平五应该兵四进一。

小车马 · 发表于 2006-2-27 22:04:00

hzsjy · 发表于 2006-2-27 22:45:00

以下是引用小车马在2006-2-27 22:04:00的发言：

25着先帅四平五：
WebCchess - [//v]

小车马 · 发表于 2006-2-28 10:05:00

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[DhtmlXQ_comment20]双方不变可作和局,此着黑退车求变。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]此处双方不变可作和局。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55]和。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment116]速和走法。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment116]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129]红炮不离中和。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment129]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment130]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment145]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment146]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment151]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment169]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170]黑劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment170]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175]红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment175]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment176]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189]黑胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment189]
[DhtmlXQ_comment209]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment209]
[DhtmlXQ_comment213]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment213]
[DhtmlXQ_comment214]黑劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment214]
[DhtmlXQ_comment219]红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment219]
[DhtmlXQ_comment220]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment220]
[DhtmlXQ_comment223]黑胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment223]
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hzsjy · 发表于 2006-2-28 18:45:00

以下是引用小车马在2006-2-28 10:05:00的发言：

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20]双方不变可作和局,此着黑退车求变。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment55]和。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89]黑胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97]黑胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115]黑胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment115]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116]速和走法。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment116]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129]红炮不离中和。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment129]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment130]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment145]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment146]
[DhtmlXQ_comment151]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment151]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment169]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170]黑劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment170]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175]红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment175]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment176]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189]黑胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment189]
[DhtmlXQ_comment209]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment209]
[DhtmlXQ_comment213]黑胜定。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment213]
[DhtmlXQ_comment214]黑劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment214]
[DhtmlXQ_comment219]红胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment219]
[DhtmlXQ_comment220]红劣。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment220]
[DhtmlXQ_comment223]黑胜。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment223]
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好！
我今天一直在找毛病。弄了大半天，确实找不出。以上我的着法问题多多。
但是第28着之中可能的变化没提及。
同时感觉还是主楼的难度大一点。（按”小车马“的着法到28着可不变作和，这已是第二次黑可取巧求和了。）

致意！

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-28 19:25:38编辑过]

小车马 · 发表于 2006-3-1 14:49:00

回复hzsjy ：本局基本完成，合作愉快！

此局之所以没采用主楼的图式，我是这样考虑的：

1。江湖型排局由于其特殊的背景，还是应尽量作成“青盘”局面。主楼的图式自红炮五退三后已是红优，红方更是随时可和。如此黑方在10回合求变多少有点勉强。

2。红方另有炮二退七的套路可以奕成和局，这路着法虽然是黑优并有许多精彩的变着，但一是变化繁复，难以把握，唯恐考虑不周；二是削弱了本局炮二平三这着棋的观赏性。

3。主楼局面可以选择套路与现在的棋局只在最后数着略有差别，现在将着法严谨化无疑是一个进步。即使因此而觉得难度降低，那也是值得的。

4。28着可不变作和在原主楼局也应该成立（以前的走法好象不准确）。全局黑方主动，此处享有选择的权利是顺理成章的。这里您指出28着有变着未列出还请明示。（因为24－28循环，并且在24着处也已加注了一个变着了）

hzsjy · 发表于 2006-3-1 15:59:00

您好：
变化您都已列举了。

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