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[江湖局研究] 管理员帮忙《四破天门》

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31#
发表于 2008-6-11 21:08:00 | 只看该作者
QUOTE:
以下是引用★星海★在2008-6-11 14:06:00的发言:

一楼红胜,这样改可和:

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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7333323341403040754540303948333418373431635331517636513136313031534342453745685859490800456400406452313052403040434278684857[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999997868[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_generator] http://www.dpxq.com/ [/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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第9回合为何要平兵送炮给黑方呢?仕五退六如何?

32#
发表于 2008-6-11 21:19:00 | 只看该作者

变化可能对红不利:

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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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33#
发表于 2008-6-11 21:22:00 | 只看该作者
QUOTE:
以下是引用★星海★在2008-6-11 14:06:00的发言:

一楼红胜,这样改可和:

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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7333323341403040754540303948333418373431635331517636513136313031534342453745685859490800456400406452313052403040434278684857[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999997868[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.zychess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.zychess.com/bbs/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D12678%26page%3D1%26extra%3D[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator] http://www.dpxq.com/ [/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

因我的改图与您的改图红车炮的位置有所不同,现将我图的着法贴出,不知是否有参考作用(您的图我还没有仔细拆解):

 

天门阵(未知)
34#
发表于 2008-6-11 21:43:00 | 只看该作者
QUOTE:
以下是引用★星海★在2008-6-11 21:19:00的发言:

变化可能对红不利:

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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]733332334140304075454030394833341837343163533151763651313631303148397879394868583758796959490858[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999997868[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]534342453745685859490800456400406452313052403040434278684857[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_2]456508093948796965690969[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_2]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs//dispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D48%26replyid%3D128948%26id%3D19516%26skin%3D0%26page%3D1%26star%3D4[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator] http://www.dpxq.com/ [/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

第6回合为什么不走兵四平五呢?

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]红大优啊。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]www.lshh.net[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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35#
发表于 2008-6-11 21:50:00 | 只看该作者

  1.前炮平六      车4进1 
  2.车五进一      将4平5 
  3.炮二平五      将5平4 
  4.仕六进五      车4进1 
  5.马八进六      车4退3 
  6.兵三平四      车4平6 
  7.车二平六      车6平4 
  8.车六进五      将4进1 
  9.仕五退六 m    卒8进1 
 10.炮五平三 m    炮1进1 
 11.仕六进五      卒8平7 
 12.炮三退四      炮1平7 

这时红走下去也不差啊。

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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]红大优啊。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69]和棋.||[/DhtmlXQ_comment69]
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[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-11 22:06:07编辑过]
36#
发表于 2008-6-11 21:54:00 | 只看该作者

回复:(语苛经历)以下是引用★星海★在2008-6-11 21...

12着黑可卒7进1再吃中兵。
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-11 21:55:08编辑过]
37#
发表于 2008-6-11 22:13:00 | 只看该作者
图显示不太完全。
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  1. 前炮平六  车4进1
  2. 车五进一  将4平5
  3. 炮二平五  将5平4
  4. 士六进五  车4进1
  5. 马八进六  车4退3
  6. 兵四平五  卒7进1
  7. 帅四平五  车4平5
  8. 车二平九  车5平2
  9. 帅五平六
12着黑可卒7进1再吃中兵,之后局势复杂,红可走。
38#
发表于 2008-6-11 22:15:00 | 只看该作者

  1. 前炮平六  车4进1
  2. 车五进一  将4平5
  3. 炮二平五  将5平4
  4. 士六进五  车4进1
  5. 马八进六  车4退3
  6. 兵三平四  车4平6
  7. 车二平六  车6平4
  8. 车六进五  将4进1
  9. 士五退六  卒8进1
 10. 炮五平三  炮1进1
 11. 士六进五  卒8平7
 12. 炮三退四  炮1平7
 13. 马六进四  卒7平8
 14. 兵四进一  炮5退2
 15. 兵四平五  炮7退6
 16. 马四进六  炮5平3
 17. 马六进七  炮3进2
 18. 马七退五  炮7平5
 19. 马五进三  炮5平6
 20. 马三进四  炮3退2
 21. 帅四进一  炮3进4
 22. 士五进六  炮3平6
 23. 帅四平五  前炮退3
 24. 兵五进一  将4进1
 25. 兵五平四  炮6平3
 26. 帅五进一  炮3退2
 27. 兵四平五  炮3进6
 28. 士六退五  炮3平2

和棋.


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39#
发表于 2008-6-11 22:16:00 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init]
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]4118nn3959nnnnnn767573nnnnnn635133nnnnnn30nnnnnn324208nnnnnn7868[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]红大优啊。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]局势复杂。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]和棋.||[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]www.lshh.net[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[/DhtmlXQ]
40#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-12 14:24:00 | 只看该作者
我看《天门阵》应该列入四大名局,天门阵历来是江湖摆棋人的镇棋之宝,只要有人把他的摆的残局给走和,他就摆出天门阵,结果把对方给吓住了,结果就没有人敢给搅闹了,其实摆棋的人自己他也没有把握,从1984年见到此棋,就没有人走成活棋,到了1992年发生了变化,有人走红棋用炮五退二,把摆棋的人给赢了,结果是连胜三盘,摆棋之人被迫改变步法不走将四平五,改走炮五平九,后来改变棋图就成了现在的《大破天门阵》,到现在《大破天门阵》让我们的管理员,不老松,星海版主,hzsjy,| 语苛经历版主,给破解了,天门阵名副其实的天门阵,一般人破解不了,穆桂英9打天门阵,我们已经五打天门阵了,期盼正和步的出现,为此我在好几个论坛发布此局,期盼众多的人参与破解此局,我是白板一个,给大家学习学习这盘棋的步法,我认为不什么丢人的事情,谢谢论坛各位前辈,你们辛苦了。
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-12 14:41:31编辑过]
41#
发表于 2008-6-13 09:33:00 | 只看该作者

此图是根据38楼JAVA代码显示的,定格为和.但此格式我试了应为黑胜!


 


  



[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-13 10:37:05编辑过]
42#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-13 10:37:00 | 只看该作者
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-13 10:38:11编辑过]
43#
发表于 2008-6-13 10:48:00 | 只看该作者
退士的变化对红不利,红方应对无误,还应能和。
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-13 11:12:37编辑过]
44#
发表于 2008-6-13 10:58:00 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]733332334140304075454030394833341837685837587868584608094837343776704240594937394948393670403040466540304542097942527978[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7699999959399918417573999999635132999999309999993342089999997868[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp%3FboardID%3D48%26ID%3D19516%26star%3D4%26page%3D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator] http://www.dpxq.com/ [/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]
45#
发表于 2008-6-13 13:40:00 | 只看该作者
胜法简洁,好!
46#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-13 15:26:00 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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47#
发表于 2008-6-13 17:43:00 | 只看该作者

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8699999959399918418584999999645132999999309999993442089999997868[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]843432344140304085454030394842488680303159490801494834384847381880831838834338374748015145053738484768584341313047577868054538374547518141813040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp%3FboardID%3D48%26ID%3D19516%26star%3D5%26page%3D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer] [DhtmlXQ_generator] http://www.dpxq.com/ [/DhtmlXQ_generator] [/DhtmlXQ]

仍是黑胜!

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-6-13 17:45:04编辑过]
48#
发表于 2008-6-13 18:20:00 | 只看该作者

这样可能红胜

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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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49#
发表于 2008-6-14 10:16:00 | 只看该作者
QUOTE:
以下是引用★星海★在2008-6-13 18:20:00的发言:

这样可能红胜

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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]天门阵修改图[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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这样可和 

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