热烈祝贺《威武之师》29回合的棋局诞生

1963

高原红 发表于 2012-10-31 22:20
感觉黑方的协杀太软。如第16回红走帅六退一！黑方没有有效的进攻方法。怎么走？只待红方慢慢来杀！

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
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就王方权先生提出的变着，再认真研究了几遍，红第16回合改走帅六退一不成立。我的应法如下，请各位棋友赐教：

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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]

[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]

[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]

[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]

[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]

[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]

[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]

[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]

[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]

[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]

[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]

[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]

[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]

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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_49_12]1017022017276746[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_49_12][DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62][DhtmlXQ_comment12_52]难挡黑方重炮杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_52]

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另外，这局棋黑协杀力是比较弱，请会使用软件的棋友帮忙审核，以求得准确的答案。谢谢。

高原红

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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
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先将黒2路卒吃了以后再退将呢？

1963

高原红 发表于 2012-11-2 00:57
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]40416151415162525141524241423150425245645251644351527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_8]404161514151625251413112[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]413013434050616050517161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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这样黑胜吗？
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[DhtmlXQ_move_5_24_6]405061605051161130417161[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_24_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]40416151415162525141524241423150425245645251644351527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_8]404161514151625251413112[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]413013434050616050517161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_10]141041301030404161514151625251415242414230403241223042323011324211234232234432424423425245645251644351527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]1014304131100220102220023839787945576869574969493938797848574947141041300646474610163041164667593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_13]304138397879455768695749694939387978485749471710413006464746101630411646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_14]6858171967591959585952445951442342410646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_15]7879393879783839787939387978383978793938[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_15][DhtmlXQ_comment66]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66][DhtmlXQ_comment38]！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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1963

高原红 发表于 2012-11-2 00:42
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_5_24_6]405061605051161130417161[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_24_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]40416151415162525141524241423150425245645251644351527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_8]404161514151625251413112[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]413013434050616050517161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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再看看这样：
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]40416151415162525141524241423150425245645251644351527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_7]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]413013434050616050517161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_12]022031524050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]？？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_13]79783839[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_13][DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]如楼上杀法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]17136869485767593839594739386568[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14][DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
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1963

高原红 发表于 2012-11-2 01:04
先将黒2路卒吃了以后再退将呢？

也就是说“先将黒2路卒吃了以后再退将”的走法还是有问题，对否？请赐教。

高原红

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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高原红

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]？？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_36_13]79783839[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_36_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]如楼上杀法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]17136869485767593839594739386568[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
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1963

高原红 发表于 2012-11-2 20:19
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[/quote]
[quote]如改走将5进1红可直接连杀，不需再等一着了！

我走士4退5.

1963

高原红 发表于 2012-11-2 20:35
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变着详列！！

西大侠，麻烦你将你的红方的最快杀法单独给出来，我都分不出主次了，谢谢！

高原红

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_10]141041301030404161514151625251415242414230403241223042323011324211234232234432424423425245645251644351527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_12]02203152405061605051171130417161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_36]？？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]如楼上杀法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]17136869485767593839594739386568[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
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zhaodi

高原红 发表于 2012-11-2 20:35

回复40楼
王老师的着法不对
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_10]141041301030404161514151625251415242414230403241223042323011324211234232234432424423425245645251644351527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_12]02203152405061605051171130417161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]？？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_36_13]79783839[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_36_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]如楼上杀法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]17136869485767593839594739386568[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_15]6151415100013041716151501710[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_28_16]41426252[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_28_16]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment33]败着。应走帅六平五。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_20]797848574947171041300646474610163041164667593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_20][DhtmlXQ_comment34]下着黑用双炮将军，红基本无解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_21]39496759476959474859476849396569393879783748776506666847483969683837787737476867474877176616670700074030161365461343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_33_21][DhtmlXQ_comment21_61]红一时赢不下来，已超过29回合。不如连照胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_61]
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外星人乔丹

这局棋看来很复杂！西侠16回合走帅六退一，的确是一步好棋啊！相信现在又不少棋友都在研究，我也在研究中.....

高原红

第15回改一下走炮九平四呢！
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2012年10月28日小改[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]红同步取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]41[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_15]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_10]141041301030404161514151625251415242414230403241223042323011324211234232234432424423425245645251644351527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]1014304131100220102220023839787945576869574969493938797848574947141041300646474610163041164667593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_19]40413839787900014140315240416151414239386858171967591959585952445951442342410646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_12]02203152405061605051171130417161[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_26_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]？？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_36_13]79783839[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_36_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]如楼上杀法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]17136869485767593839594739386568[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_37_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_15]6151415100013041716151501710[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_27_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_28_16]41426252[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_28_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_28_17]41311711[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_28_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]败着。应走帅六平五。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_34_20]797848574947171041300646474610163041164667593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_34_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]下着黑用双炮将军，红基本无解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21_61]红一时赢不下来，已超过29回合。不如连照胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_61]
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高原红

因后炮九平四后红方已伏有杀招！

如黑 马７进５
  2. 车八进七 士５退４
  3. 车八退四 士４进５
  4. 马六进八 象１退３
  5. 马八退七 象３进１
  6. 车八进四 士５退４
  7. 车八平六 将５进１
  8. 四兵平四 将５平６
  9. 车六退一 将６退１
10. 马七进六 象１退３
11. 马六退四

zhaodi

回复46楼
走后炮平四，虽说红胜棋，但也是超过29回合才胜的，不应做主变。此局应以29回合连照做主变，其他列支变，可以说29回合连照成立，

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1963

邢春波 发表于 2012-11-2 22:20
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请参考3楼着法。

1963

zhaodi 发表于 2012-11-2 22:17
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走后炮平四，虽说红胜棋，但也是超过29回合才胜的，不应做主变。此局应以29回合连照做主变，其他 ...

是的，我也研究过这步棋，黑方可把红方的有效攻击棋子调开，红方要超过29回合取胜。

邢春波

1963 发表于 2012-11-2 22:30
请参考3楼着法。

24回合红已成必胜局面，虽然也是29回合成杀，但黑是靠弃子照将凑得的步数，黑方的着法能算有效招法吗？

zhaodi

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嗯，这样带将军走炮九平四是正确之招。红是胜定。
但存在邢老师提出的黑有无赖着法硬拖至29回合。呵呵

1963

邢春波 发表于 2012-11-3 06:09
24回合红已成必胜局面，虽然也是29回合成杀，但黑是靠弃子照将凑得的步数，黑方的着法能算有效招法吗？

在这个帖子的57楼我曾表达过我的观点，对否，有待大家讨论。
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=29294&extra=page%3D2&page=2

邢春波

1963 发表于 2012-11-3 20:57
在这个帖子的57楼我曾表达过我的观点，对否，有待大家讨论。
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?m ...

邓老师您好
          借此机会我谈一下对此局面的看法，在非连照局中出现这种局面，就会以红胜定三个字结束它。因为以下的着法已无意义，除非黑能借照将或别的方法，暂解红方杀势（哪怕是弃子垫将）或攻势才会将着法走下去。（显然这种情况不存在。）我觉得连照胜局也适用。
          第二既然步数相同，连照胜着法可以成立，那么非连照胜着法也可以成立，选择哪种着法做主变较为合理呢？我认为应以较为简单容易的变化做主变，显然非连照的着法做主变更合理。

1963

邢春波 发表于 2012-11-3 22:25
邓老师您好
          借此机会我谈一下对此局面的看法，在非连照局中出现这种局面，就会以红胜定三个字 ...

我在帖子里也讲得很清楚，对图案局这种特殊体裁的排局，应特别对待。

平原一刀

我认为出现这种红强胜势的图形局，就跟冗子是一个道理的。图形局红越早出现强势，所作的图形局价值评分就应有所降低。

yanyun

在对局中红胜定的棋也有人会走输。在排局中红胜定的局也有必要【必须】走出精确胜法（除非出现单车对孤将等等。。。。。）。

外星人乔丹

                                                                        再研究南大侠29回合的《威武之师》
      在我认为：南大侠29回合的《威武之师》成立并祝贺时，西大侠王方权先生提出红方在第16回合，走冷着：帅六退一，引起了网上众侠们的纷纷讨论与研究，这是大好事！没有争鸣就达不到共识！我和洪都侠南昌王勇闯先生也再次进行了深入、细致的研究，现将我们研究的结果公布出来，看看众侠们还有什么意见。
      我们认为：南大侠在齐鲁侠任  云先生28回合《威武之师》的基础上，稍作改动增一着，形成了超记录的29回合连照《威武之师》成立！因为，第16回合红改走帅六退一，形成分图一（抱歉我不会贴动态棋盘，就免了）。现轮黑先行，此时黑有炮8进1和车7进1有两种着法，在这两种着法中，红方均不能在28回合内取胜。所以，我们认为：冷着速胜不存在。现将着法试演如下：第一种  炮8进1；
     16.  ......       炮8进1  17.马五退四  炮7平5  18.车八进四  士5退4  19.前兵平四  车7进1  20.帅六进一 炮8退1
     21.仕五退四  马7进6  22.马四退五  车7退1  23.帅六退一  马6退5  24.仕六退五  炮8进1  25.马五进三 马8进7
     26.帅六进一  马5退3  27.帅六进一  卒2平3  28.帅六退一  卒3进1  29.帅六进一  卒4进1  30.后炮平六 象1退3
     31.车八平七  炮5平4  32.炮六平五  马3退5  33.车七平六 （红胜）注：这里的着法，是按照“胜法速胜，负法迟负”的原则进行的。  第二种  车7进1；演变下去是29回合冷着与连照同步胜。既然没有速胜，29回合的冷着我们认为不可取，能痛快的连照，为什么要走冷着呢？这是我们的一贯观点。
     综合上述，我们的结论是：29回合的《威武之师》成立，新的纪元开始了！
     南大侠邓伟雄先生：我们再次热烈祝贺您成功突破28回合《威武之师》！刷新了历史！！！同时，写生侠还期待更多的超记录诞生！一定给奖，兑现承诺！！！
                                                                                                                 周   平   王勇闯  2012年11月6日
   
     

yjr123

第16回合红改走帅六退一是空着，黑炮8进1后，红方仍须按原方法车八进四连照胜，如走马五退四则成黑胜！

49楼的非连照也是29回合胜（虽然黑方强凑着法）。