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[排局诠正] 野马操田【早期《北京象棋》的诠正】

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31#
发表于 2015-3-21 20:27:41 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2015-3-21 20:02
好人做到底

陈先生,24楼黑大开车也可胜,就是27楼贴出的着法.
32#
发表于 2015-3-21 21:28:59 | 只看该作者
又有想法弄一圖,呵呵呵呵呵呵呵.....................不知能不能和
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[DhtmlXQ_event]江湖八大排局[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2000-10-10[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place]重庆市巫山县[/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_title]野马操田 改局 [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]龚伟[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]龚伟[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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33#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-3-22 09:20:58 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-3-22 09:32 编辑

谢谢yjr123先生!27楼原来华瑞生老师的改局更加简洁,不是把黑中象改成边象,而是直接去掉黑中象啊。

34#
 楼主| 发表于 2015-3-22 09:56:12 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-3-22 10:18 编辑

谢谢各位朋友!

古局:
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]8499259939994764749999999926468699992030404142991699999999993748[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_event]竹香斋象戏谱[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]野马操田(红先黑胜)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]竹剑飘香[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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关于《野马操田》的诠正,至少有以下的方案:

杨官璘先生的方案:
去掉一路红兵。
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8499259939994764749999999999462616994241403020999999994837999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_event]竹香斋象戏谱[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]野马操田(和局  牵扯棋例纠纷)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]竹剑飘香[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34128%26extra%3D%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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朱鹤洲等老师的诠正方案

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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8486259939994764749999999999462616994241403020999999994837999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_event]竹香斋象戏谱[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]野马操田(改正和局)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]竹剑飘香[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34128%26extra%3D%26page%3D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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北京象棋的诠正方案:
见1楼:[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]8499479939992564749999994699269916990241403020999999999999993748[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_event]江湖八大排局[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2000-10-10[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place]重庆市巫山县[/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_title]野马操田【早期《北京象棋》的诠正】[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]龚伟[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]龚伟[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34128[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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(联吟客先生以为黑胜。见6楼)。

华瑞生先生的方案:
见27楼(yjr先生提供)。
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-10-29 14:42:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-10-29 14:42:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]良马操田(华瑞生拟局)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]59[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]54[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]6991900[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
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象棋法官的方案:
见24楼(桑莫喜先生提供):
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
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[DhtmlXQ_event]竹香斋象戏谱[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]野马操田(改正和局)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]竹剑飘香[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D34128[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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(联吟客先生以为黑胜。见28楼)。



最近有一杯红酒先生的诠改局,本帖32楼联吟客先生的新想法,等等(还有其他朋友的诠改局,就不一一列出了)。

综合一下:
1 能不能成和。
2 牵不牵扯棋例。
3 能不能拓展一下。

个人以为:都是正能量!即便是诠改不成功,至少有所启迪。




35#
发表于 2015-3-22 12:11:31 | 只看该作者
这是在残局库找到的野马操田.[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2015-2-7 13:07:06[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2015-2-7 13:07:06[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]野马操田(和局)王羽屏修正[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]江湖残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]67[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]9025520[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]桑莫喜[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]刊《象棋艺术》第4期[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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36#
发表于 2015-3-22 12:48:54 | 只看该作者
35樓黑勝法可參考6樓
37#
发表于 2015-3-22 12:56:34 | 只看该作者
這局也很好[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]野马七星(凌云子改正和局)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]竹剑飘香[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
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38#
发表于 2015-3-22 13:08:51 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_event]竹香斋象戏谱[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_title]大 車馬(應該是李浭與陶詒謨改正和局)[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_author]竹剑飘香[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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