一则传统江湖小局的再探讨

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-8 07:50:22

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-1-8 08:06 编辑

杨启忠发表于 2016-1-7 17:44
供时老师参考:

谢谢您！非常正确！

学生我老是觉得：
1 意义重大！
2 是不是应该对最新棋谱（6楼）验证一下啊。
3 不管对与错，yjr123 老师就是提供了继续商榷的空间！

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-8 08:02:40

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-1-8 08:08 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2016-1-7 17:51

谢谢您！

您是首位商榷的老师（9楼）。

yjr123 老师的观点，学生我觉得：

1 需要对最新棋谱（6楼）继续验证。
2 通过探讨确认正确着法，为改进和提高此局的最基本的依据。

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-8 08:17:20

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-1-8 08:19 编辑

学生我经常胡思乱想，现在老毛病又发作了。

学生我的胡思乱想如下：
能不能把下面的两个局面，进行对比探讨啊！

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[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8570230[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]送京娘[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8570230[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D35080%26extra%3D%26page%3D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-8 08:24:55

没有老师们的点拨，学生我糊涂；有了老师们的点拨，学生我获益！

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-9 09:33:36

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-1-9 09:35 编辑

??????

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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]送京娘[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8570230[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
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[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D35080%26extra%3D%26page%3D2[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-1-9 09:54:57

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2016-1-10 09:17 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
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[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8570230[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]4252101949483038[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_5_1]4849181949483038[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_5] 這樣紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]給黑倖和機會[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_6_2]185843423039493958593938263638483646[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_6_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_3]1959[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_4]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_5]1959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_4]19184847[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4] 可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_10_6]26363949364641515040424140305150[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_10_6][DhtmlXQ_comment2_14]可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_14][DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2016-1-9 10:11:02

sdndsx 发表于 2016-1-8 08:02
谢谢您！

您是首位商榷的老师（9楼）。

前面这么多帖子不是对6楼着法的讨论？现在已经几乎把所有变化都列出来了。

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-9 17:44:49

谢谢 36、37楼两位老师的跟帖！35楼的帖子，学生我连打了不少问号，原意是：验证一下6楼的最新棋谱的最后着法的结论正确与否。都怪学生我表达能力太差了。

1——8楼都是学生我的帖子。9楼联吟客老师，确实是首位跟帖者。

YJR123 老师的创新着法，学生我很赞同！

此主题帖能够引出老师们的高见，学生我真的是大喜过望！真诚感谢华工网所有在本主题帖跟帖的老师们！

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-10 09:02:04

各位老师：您的跟帖发掘了新的着法，我觉得（对与不对，不敢确定）引起了下半段的微妙变化！

先将6楼（是基础）和新变化作对比，再进行归纳小结。

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-10 09:07:05

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-1-10 09:09 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]送京娘[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_3_19_1]5251595141515051[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_19_1]
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[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8570230[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]伏杀！[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]弃车妙手！如黑[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||棋艺2014年第八期封面棋局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_4]5852414050513141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_4][DhtmlXQ_comment8]6楼原谱此时献车。红胜。是劣变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-1-10 09:13:45

sdndsx 发表于 2016-1-10 09:07

第3回合進帥紅勝

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-10 09:15:08

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-1-10 09:21 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]送京娘[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8570230[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||棋艺2014年第八期封面棋局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_25] 紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_4]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_5]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment6_5]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_1_7_7]4342263638483646[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_7_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]老师：您给出了新的着法。||||学生我水平所限，错误在所难免。||||就棋论棋，学生我之渴盼！||||不怕学生我错的离谱，就怕没人答理我！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]是否應這樣||||我的即兴感觉：||如果对了，是您对此局的一大贡献！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]YJR123 老师的新变着法！精彩！||||杨启忠老师赞同。我也赞同！[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-10 09:19:13

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-1-10 18:20 编辑

为了方便对比，特将40楼和42楼的两个局面（轮到红方走棋）的棋图贴于下面：

40楼：
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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]送京娘[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]红胜局面（40楼）[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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42楼：
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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]送京娘[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8570230[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist][DhtmlXQ_comment0]和棋局面（42楼）[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2016-1-10 09:20:26

36樓剛剛已修訂加上40樓變化

sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-10 09:31:27

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2016-1-10 18:04 编辑

老师们发掘的新变化，引来后半段的微妙局面。有3种局面（轮到黑方走棋）可对比；

局面1：
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999938999999999999999942524159999999509999999999992699999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]送京娘[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]56[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]全局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]764[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]8570230[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]667[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]667[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]2636384836465251595141515051[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1]4151504042414030515046474847594947574941[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_4_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_2]524246474847594947574942[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_8_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_13]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_13][DhtmlXQ_comment4]！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
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局面2：
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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-23 0:14:54[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-11-5 13:09:56[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]送京娘[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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sdndsx · 发表于 2016-1-10 10:01:56

聨吟客发表于 2016-1-10 09:20
36樓剛剛已修訂加上40樓變化

谢谢您！

我想先把可对比的局面贴出来，再对老师们的新变，归纳到一个棋图里边。

还有一个疑问：

红方速胜速和，黑方迟负迟和，作为主变没有问题。

但如果修改成红黑倒置的局面，主变着法是否要作变化呢？

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