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一杯红酒

其实新七星正和谱很多

yuntao云涛

一杯红酒 发表于 2015-3-1 21:03
其实新七星正和谱很多

请试举一正和例子

一杯红酒

      我要先把庞杂支脉理清楚，劣变如此之多，也能佐证正变的意义，也能引证我对新七星的评价，看红酒是不是在说空话、大话、假话，没有对其它局的拆解和实践，通过与新七星的比较，我也不会如此评价新七星，让大家看我为狂妄的人呀！

一杯红酒

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整理，红首着【车二进一】加【车二进一】，黑胜
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[DhtmlXQ_comment160_9]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_9]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]||黑车退1红必须退帅[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment481_14]黑可以胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment481_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment481_13]黑可以胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment481_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment481_11]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment481_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment475_11]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment475_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment480_9]||黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment480_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment663_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment663_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]最顽强的走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]另外列出||最有可能和棋的路子，变化很多[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]||此变黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
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yuntao云涛

根据【101楼，102楼，104楼，126楼】的黑胜结果，现在就剩下这条支路，结果待定

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_1]102楼变例，黑胜无疑[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_1]大变化之一，||云涛和红酒研究结果认为最后黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_5]云涛变例，红酒和我认为黑胜，由于数据丢失未能给出[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_5]
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一杯红酒

yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-3-2 15:03
整理，红首着【车二进一】加【车二进一】，黑胜

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一杯红酒 发表于 2015-3-1 21:03
其实新七星正和谱很多

都132楼了，还是没有看到楼主列出一路正和的变化，说实话我不喜欢这局棋，因为它没有排局特有的奇巧、精彩和令人意想不到的着法，只有复杂和变化比较多。类似大鸿雁，但感觉还不及鸿雁局， 并且还不知它是不是能成立。

sdj

其实红酒先生与时具进

yuntao云涛

邢春波 发表于 2015-3-6 21:02
都132楼了，还是没有看到楼主列出一路正和的变化，说实话我不喜欢这局棋，因为它没有排局特有的奇巧、精彩 ...

红酒喜欢把【新七星】化简为繁，经常劣中劣误导别人，又喜欢以单一变例的形式表达出来，像这样一天一变例（正劣不分）的表达新七星可以表达十年；
在我感觉新七星的变化在大鸿雁之上，也许有可能和棋，但红酒所谓的和谱也许根本就不是正解

大征西

邢春波 发表于 2015-3-6 21:02
都132楼了，还是没有看到楼主列出一路正和的变化，说实话我不喜欢这局棋，因为它没有排局特有的奇巧、精彩 ...

     

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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-3-6 23:14
红酒喜欢把【新七星】化简为繁，经常劣中劣误导别人，又喜欢以单一变例的形式表达出来，像这样一天一变例 ...

       我这样对每一个变化都非常细致地在拆解，就是怕疏忽了，尽量避免错误拆解，对变化分支下错误结论，每天发的变化，还要重新拆解论证，已经化了我大量的时间和精力了，我会把新七星搞透彻的，把她完全地呈现给大家！新七星到底如何，结论如何，以后再评论好吗?
       当时搞出新七星局的时候，自己拆了很久，都不能论证她是否成立，基本快放弃她，淘汰她了，我记得，那是XXXX年的冬天，好大的一场雪，比往年来得稍晚了一些，拆解新七星没有结果，我很烦闷，白天就和朋友上街玩去了，晚上公交车还晚点，很多的人在排队等候，那时我的心情是最差的时候，在拥挤的车上，新七星各种变化，随车窗外的雪景，一幕幕闪过，忽然大脑里就有了和谱的灵感，回家细细拆解，也是成立的，后来又发现了好几个和谱体系，这局我投入的精力时间是最多的，自己也特别喜爱她，直到现在，我自己还不能推翻我的和谱，和谱体系也是异常庞大复杂，双方搏杀激烈程度不可想象，惊天动地呀！
       新七星这样得以保留，国粹幸哉！

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yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-3-2 15:37
根据【101楼，102楼，104楼，126楼】的黑胜结果，现在就剩下这条支路，结果待定

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一杯红酒

截至今天（2015年3月10日），对新七星的拆解总结汇报如下：

一、红首着车二退二
    1、加红帅六退一变例（云涛变例）：异常复杂，截至目前的拆解研究，只能暂时定为黑胜。
    2、加红帅六进一变例：复杂，截至今天的拆解研究，定为黑胜。
    总结红首着车二退二，局面黑优势，红劣势，红是否能有守和谱，本人未有定论。

                                       新七星局作者：一杯红酒

                                       2015年3月10日

yuntao云涛

大征西 发表于 2015-3-10 08:46
恐怕和不了

141楼变例，第2回合黑【车2平6】错误，红胜

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yuntao云涛

一杯红酒 发表于 2015-3-10 09:51
截至今天（2015年3月10日），对新七星的拆解总结汇报如下：

一、红首着车二退二

红首着【车二退二】，本人研究结果肯定黑胜，异常复杂
首着红【车二进一】加【车二进一】，本人研究结果也肯定黑胜，非常复杂

首着红【车二进一】 加【车二退三】变例，本人研究结果难定，感觉黑机会多，红有可能和

一杯红酒

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
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魔帝大人

很复杂，钻研精神可嘉。

一杯红酒

魔帝大人 发表于 2015-3-11 09:33
很复杂，钻研精神可嘉。

谢谢先生的回复，我现在只能慢慢的拆呀，希望每个变化不出错或者少出错才好，特别是对复杂的分支，一旦拆完，就有如释重负的感觉，如果要是搞错，恐怕很难再有恒心和毅力再重复拆解了！

一杯红酒

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大征西

yuntao云涛 发表于 2015-3-10 10:08
141楼变例，第2回合黑【车2平6】错误，红胜

黑改走2.车2退2 ， 红也胜！
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