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61#
发表于 2014-10-28 13:41:45 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-28 13:43 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2014-10-28 13:36
乾脆由星海兄整理投稿如何?只要註明有我的研究即可,當然還有yjr123,象棋法官..............等人參與

已 ...

还是陈兄投稿好。毕竟这是陈兄的苦心研究,YJR123整理了车四平二的重要变化,也出力不小。我也只是做一点点补充。
62#
发表于 2014-10-28 14:11:35 | 只看该作者
已出版的譜中的多種變化該如何取捨卻是一大難題

已出版棋谱,都是走了炮一退六的劣着(大陆棋规),列出黑胜的着法即可,其余的变化大多不可取。
63#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-28 17:51:09 | 只看该作者
星海兄可否把58樓先弄一個大概的主變看看,如沒問題也補充進去
64#
发表于 2014-10-28 19:03:44 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2014-10-28 17:51
星海兄可否把58樓先弄一個大概的主變看看,如沒問題也補充進去

着法比较散,黑方没有明显的进攻手段。
欢迎指正:
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]5171385871764748764648388929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_11]16367679464579494737493937473936[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_40_16]5453383902203938434838395323343323225150223233434843504041524043[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_40_16]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_13]81875181877781863836867677578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]||這樣能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_17]8380[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_15]8185[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41][DhtmlXQ_comment53]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
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65#
发表于 2014-10-28 22:11:37 | 只看该作者
这局棋红方如若应对得当,黑方没有明显的进攻手段,例如红方64楼,或11回合走沉底炮,黑方都没有固定的走法,只要红方不失误就是和局。

无论第7回合黑方象怎么飞,红方可以不变应万变,以沉底炮为正着,着法不用走得太长,后面的着法不紧凑,点到为止即可。
对于其他的和棋思路可以稍稍介绍一下。
如果红方选择31楼的走法,黑方是有攻势的,只要红方应对正确,可按照大陆棋规和棋。
66#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-29 09:25:27 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2014-10-29 09:30 编辑

白老師與外星人喬丹老師最新版本的竹譜對星移斗轉局的結論是如何呢?
67#
发表于 2014-10-29 10:16:23 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2014-10-29 09:25
白老師與外星人喬丹老師最新版本的竹譜對星移斗轉局的結論是如何呢?

昨天特意看了,黑胜。
68#
发表于 2014-10-29 11:04:24 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-29 18:43 编辑

这一变需要研究一下,与象5进7不同,黑方取胜难度增大,有可能是和局。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]4264183832428183515638368986362642522624564647376482831352513738866613114152243466603430461611011606011106011110524130350104101151503531415231320454111252413282[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]||這樣能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_21_17]8380[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_21_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17]象在3路,炮一退六也能和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17][DhtmlXQ_comment19_21]可走仿照7路象之变走炮一进四,局势平稳。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_20]565937385919542446483839484939381939345449462427463627373937544442524441[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_28_20][DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_45][DhtmlXQ_comment19_71]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_71][DhtmlXQ_move_12_22_18]41328303425203025251262132410201564647375152212264422225465625754132757252517242[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_22_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]
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69#
发表于 2014-10-29 16:23:39 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_24_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]42241838324281875171385871764748415258577646483889395727463687373919272442412421414021225241224219133848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]||這樣能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_53]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_53]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_13_21_17]8380[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_21_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_15]8185[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_15]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_20_27_11]16367679464579494737493937473936[/DhtmlXQ_move_20_27_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_20]877781863836867677578986361641321626425226363241361676774645775747488680[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_20][DhtmlXQ_comment19]怎么胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
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70#
发表于 2014-10-29 18:52:41 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-10-29 21:34 编辑

这一变应该保留:
第10回合炮一退五是棋谱中出现过的走法,被当成黑胜。
此时红方可走炮一进五或者车六平七可和。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]4224183832428180515080845056383689863634564647378656845424023738565534354644545355543533444533344543535154523839434534335254333454533433535433345453343353555153454939385515330302200313153513333515536315126360123233434943604041524043[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]||這樣能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_21_17]8380[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_21_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_19]81875171385871764748415258577646483889395727463687373919272442412421414021225241224219133848[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_17_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_17]象在3路,炮一退六也能和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_21]可走仿照7路象之变走炮一进四,局势平稳。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_71]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_71]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_18]41328303425203025251262132410201564647375152212264422225465625754132757252517242[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_40_16]5453383902203938434838395323343323225150223233434843504041524043[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_40_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_28_20]565937385919542446483839484939381939345449462427463627373937544442524441[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_28_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]这是棋谱中出现过的局面,被当成黑胜。||此时红方可走炮一进五或者车六平七可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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71#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-29 22:06:24 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2014-10-29 22:09 编辑

20樓紅 這樣走,黑勝法如何 ?
     [DhtmlXQ][DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]515431325434743460104858595856575857345457475451101842641838324281875171385871764748764648384132873789095878[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]8929872746362737292858543646542428183717415024344648383948471712424139384140343040413034[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]46368737413258484252484489813848365644648141646252516232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]8980584842524841803041443037444737273848365647275646483852422737[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_26_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]||和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]5950144442524464524264444252446450406460404160634140636040436065433365555242554542523848365637323353[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]6434595034314648383948473938505131334132332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
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72#
发表于 2014-10-29 22:26:18 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]515431325434743460104858595856575857345457475451101842641838324281875171385871764748764648384132873789095878424178714140717040417000091900014140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]5950144442524464524264444252446450406460404160634140636040436065433365555242554542523848365637323353[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]6434595034314648383948473938505131334132332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment60]
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73#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-29 22:35:57 | 只看该作者
恕我愚鈍,所謂炮一退六亞規能和,是走到何種局面呢?
74#
发表于 2014-10-29 22:40:16 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2014-10-29 22:35
恕我愚鈍,所謂炮一退六亞規能和,是走到何種局面呢?

72楼从17回合开始,红方一直走两将一捉炮。
75#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-29 22:47:42 | 只看该作者
嗯,黑進將不讓紅用兩將一捉,會如何?
[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]4140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1][DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
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76#
发表于 2014-10-29 22:58:34 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2014-10-29 22:47
嗯,黑進將不讓紅用兩將一捉,會如何?

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]51543132543474346010485859585657585734545747545110184264183832428187517138587176474876464838413287378909587842417871414071704041700009190001414201074636071719291727291927244241[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]5950144442524464524264444252446450406460404160634140636040436065433365555242554542523848365637323353[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]6434595034314648383948473938505131334132332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]4140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
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77#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-29 23:20:04 | 只看该作者
所以炮一退六亞規也是黑勝?
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]5950144442524464524264444252446450406460404160634140636040436065433365555242554542523848365637323353[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]6434595034314648383948473938505131334132332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]4140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_63_2]332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_63_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_10]641410303707524107024748383948460208413208384649[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_51_24]14104707[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_51_24]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_25]64341910343052413031105039385051313341323736474838394846363746473938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_45_25]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26869%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D3[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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78#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-29 23:25:59 | 只看该作者
喔, 76樓退車頑強
79#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-29 23:45:34 | 只看该作者
再看看
[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]5154313254347434601048585958565758573454574754511018426418383242818751713858717647487646483841328737890958784241787141407170404170000929000141420107464838394847072729283938648238392868[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]5950144442524464524264444252446450406460404160634140636040436065433365555242554542523848365637323353[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]6434595034314648383948473938505131334132332347373837513123333133[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_35_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_36_1]4140010040410010192910114140111040411020291920244636246419136461414061621311624240504272113138483637[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_36_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]09190001414201074636071719291727291927244241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2][DhtmlXQ_comment46]||黑炮脫身能勝否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment46][DhtmlXQ_comment34]||這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D26869%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D3[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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80#
发表于 2014-10-30 05:54:52 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6099999959999999519981999999994699999999314142997499899999563848[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-08-26 00:00:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]5154313254347434601048585958565758573454574754511018426418383242818751713858717647487646483841328737890958784241787141407170404170000929000141420107464838394847072729283938648238392868393868672723673723333727333242413237474838392729[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]51563836894947484946875756865758425248385251384851504838504038484666586866766878[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]464551813834818634444232444186464757894941444945575832315859464844434544434044424050428250568289565531415554484959588959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_17_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878415278688264687831327868464768673839874789804745805067575057[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]364614643241646259526272[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]5950144442524464524264444252446450406460404160634140636040436065433365555242554542523848365637323353[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_32_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]4636573736373837892937382920873732413747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_26_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]40416063[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]143459503464324164624152626346483839484739385030[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_33_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]37325030[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_35_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]595064625052[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_34_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]626052416062415262634648383948476333524133315051313341323938473733375131[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_39_19]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]09190001414201074636071719291727291927244241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]||黑炮脫身能勝否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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81#
发表于 2014-10-30 06:46:48 | 只看该作者
77楼24回合炮六进七黑如何胜?
82#
发表于 2014-10-30 10:30:19 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 象棋法官 于 2014-10-30 10:37 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2014-10-29 23:45
再看看

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]||  以下着法,是根据上海朱鹤洲前辈在《竹香斋》诠注本的着法录出(2000年1月上海文化出版社出版)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]||败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]8788383988484748684889814878815178583242[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_19_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]||黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]41526263[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_36_21]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]3959171442411464[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_30_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]這樣黑勝法如何\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]3707463607374241584864424847090747440700444500304547363747374264[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑進將呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]09190001414201074636071719291727291927244241[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]||黑炮脫身能勝否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
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83#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-10-30 10:51:24 | 只看该作者
嗯,81,82樓黑都難勝,亞規的研究就告一段落吧, 投稿當然 以大陸規則為準 

最近有點事,又此局複雜,可能多日以後才能整理出來......
84#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-5 03:14:51 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2014-11-5 04:08 编辑

先這樣,大家認為象5進3或車六平七的變化要加上去嗎 ?
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878896978686979877731307776464776784152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]74788983464583537858485859493848[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_5_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]败着。此變由yjr123余俊瑞先生完善走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]此變由星海曾峻嶺先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]此變由余俊瑞先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]此變參考陸曙光詮註本的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]這是我多年研究認為可和 的一種走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]5041868041508086[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]這個古局局多種現代詮註本的走法與結論大部分認為黑勝,也有認為和局但走法有錯誤的,我曾多年苦心研究發現 一種和局的正確走法,在華工網討論獲得支持, 並且網友們也補充完善一些變化o[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]||黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
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85#
发表于 2014-11-5 03:33:47 | 只看该作者
呵呵,陈先生开始研究和补充此局变化了,祝愿先生最终整理发掘出此局一套准确而完整的着法。
86#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-5 03:52:54 | 只看该作者
炎与夜 发表于 2014-11-5 03:33
呵呵,陈先生开始研究和补充此局变化了,祝愿先生最终整理发掘出此局一套准确而完整的着法。

呵呵,多謝!星海兄與法官等人也發現其他一些可能的和法, 但有的比較複雜
,樓上還沒定稿,看要如何補充比較好 
87#
发表于 2014-11-5 08:21:29 | 只看该作者
聨吟客 发表于 2014-11-5 03:52
呵呵,多謝!星海兄與法官等人也發現其他一些可能的和法, 但有的比較複雜
,樓上還沒定稿,看要如何補充比較 ...

加一些文字说明,不用列着法:“如果第7囡合走象5进3,此时炮一退六也能和”、“除了沉底炮,此时车六平七亦可”
88#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-6 00:06:44 | 只看该作者
感謝星海兄,大家看看這樣可以了嗎
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]415260613132547442646164[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]547442608187323174785646786860826878896978686979877731307776464776784152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]74543839874789824645822254245657[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_7_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]58578939571746368737390917070919071719091714424114640903[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_25_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]败着。此變由yjr123余俊瑞先生完善走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]此變由星海曾峻嶺先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]此變由余俊瑞先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]此變參考陸曙光詮註本的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]56504645508045444150444342413646808243534151535282524686524247375141863642493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]5041868041508086[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]||黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]曾峻嶺先生提出如象5進3,車八平六再炮一進一或退六也能和,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment14][DhtmlXQ_comment23]這是我多年研究認為可和 的一種走法 o曾峻嶺先生提出還有車六平七變化也應能和,但較複雜,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23][DhtmlXQ_comment0]這個古局 ,多種現代詮註本的走法與結論大部分認為黑勝,也有認為和局但走法有錯誤的,我曾多年苦心研究發現 一種和局的正確走法,在華工網討論獲得支持, 並且網友們也協助補充完善一些變化o[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_19_10]885871775857898738337776474876464838464838394847575687803938474838394846565746475756803056364737[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_19_10][DhtmlXQ_comment8_60]黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_60][DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42][DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]此變參考蔣權朱鶴洲裘望禹三人詮註本的走法,只作重點演變 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]
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89#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-11-6 10:32:33 | 只看该作者
這樣是否可以定稿了呢
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[DhtmlXQ_title]《竹香齋》初集第54局〝星移斗轉〞新詮  陳明仁 [/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2007-08-26[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_author]东萍公司[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]||  黑炮被牵制无法脱身,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]||红劣黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]||劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_2]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]败着。此變由yjr123余俊瑞先生完善走法 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]此變由星海曾峻嶺先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]此變由余俊瑞先生完善走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]此變參考陸曙光詮註本的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]||黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]曾峻嶺先生提出如象5進3,車八平六再炮一進一或退六也能和,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]這是我多年研究認為可和 的一種走法 o曾峻嶺先生提出還有車六平七變化也應能和,但較複雜,曾先生同意走法從略 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]這個古局 ,多種現代詮註本的走法與結論大部分認為黑勝,也有認為和局但走法有錯誤的,我曾多年苦心研究發現 一種和局的正確走法,在華工網討論獲得支持, 並且網友們也協助補充完善一些變化o[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_60]黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]此變參考蔣權朱鶴洲裘望禹三人詮註本的走法,只作重點演變 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_14]36388687[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_27_14][DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]||得炮黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_28][DhtmlXQ_comment13_23]各詮註本的走法,演成黑勝o[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_23][DhtmlXQ_comment13_38]黑勝定o[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_38][DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]竹譜原來的走法,劣着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
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聨吟客 发表于 2014-11-6 10:32
這樣是否可以定稿了呢

笔者认为:本局末后黑方车炮有士象、且车占据中路这个形势,对红方车炮无士相应该具有很大的胜机。从1本的着法来看:黑方尚未发挥士象的微妙作用,如果得以充分发挥。可能正路仍为和局,然一旦红方走错就具有许多幸胜的机会。甚至本身也可能是必胜的残局。
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