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61#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 14:50:02 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-5 16:07 编辑

     邓先生已开场,那接下来是重量级人物登场,那就是王方权先生,记得在8几年的棋犮杂志上,任云先生经常摆擂,好象都是王先生攻下的,特别是海峡两岸,32回合得第一,说着说着就说远了,还是回正题吧,模式得出现并不等于成功,因为抽吃黑3子是不够突破,好在王先生在红抽吃黑3子后,巧妙得在黑方左下方埋下伏兵,让红方把抽子模式又走了一遍,52着,非常非常重要,而且,让我敬重的人不多..........................
62#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 14:56:06 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-3 17:51 编辑

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63#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 14:56:31 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-3 17:51 编辑

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64#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 14:56:57 | 只看该作者
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65#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 15:16:03 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-3 17:18 编辑

   贴出王先生的棋局只想说一件事,拿到百24我翻看到王先生的极限超越局,发现有一段文字,就是3路设兵是首创,我明确告诉先生,沒参考,本来这创作过程是在百24要说清得,而且王晔主编也转来667的意思,让我写一篇关于创作再攀高峰的过程,我说已有马行义先生写了一篇读极艰超越的文章,我再写不合适,所以在这里说清楚,但有一点很清楚,再局的成立是在先生的棋局中获得启发.
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 15:42:29 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-3 18:17 编辑

   有了模式就象有了钱得暏徒,记得我是用百度捜素象棋最长连照胜,万里长征,还有极限超越,帖子已说明我要借用的摸式,开始是抢打出头鸟摸式,当时我还进不了华工,我是在大师网发帖的,路漫漫摸式开始是研究的是3路马.[DhtmlXQ]
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67#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 15:56:23 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 16:48 编辑

这2局都是在大师网所发,都不能突破,那时真不知天高,现在想想脸多红.[DhtmlXQ]
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68#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 16:46:37 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-5 12:07 编辑

    由于十年不玩棋,不知天高,那时只能在大师网发帖,发得棋局基本都是错的,后来不知也发不了帖,华工又进不了,那时心情无法形容,往往失望的同时,也是希望的开始,2011年中秋前几无,秦瑧兄长在qq上找到我,交谈中得知可用软件打谱,他让我下载巫师,我现在还是用巫师打谱,并走后门进了华工,后来谈到大师网的长连照,多是兄长用周软校阅,用3路马抽吃3子后局面,各种3路马的局势都只有一二十回合,根本不成立,那时的我就象暏红了眼的暏徒,大家知道,用巫师摆局,右边会有棋子,我一看,还有一红兵,3路兵是在这样情况下放置的,3路可放兵,但连接点不知在那里,记得那几天我休息,笫二天早上上qq后,秦瑧兄长发来王方权先生的极限超越局的图片,那时我不知道可以捜索帖子,我是一页一页在论坛中翻,翻到后我用手工打了一遍着法,就一遍,局中红有一步棋启发了我,就是这步棋,使我有了机会.[DhtmlXQ]
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69#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 17:23:32 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2014-1-10 19:30 编辑

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70#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 17:34:25 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-5 16:09 编辑

   想法不错, 由于红双车一线放在红马后,红马8退6后,黑可不吃马,相头马接不了力,那天秦兄一直帮我用周软校,都是红必负,第2天秦兄发来周软文件,并教会我运用,记得那时我上班不用干活,就一人,我用纸画了棋盘,构思棋局,就一天的思考,下班后放入周软,时间不长,显示53回合,我一算着法,只有293着.[DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 17:45:51 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2014-1-10 19:31 编辑

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72#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-2 17:54:57 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 16:35 编辑

    那时我不会发帖,都是百24王晔主编代发,楼上的局名是秦兄所题.我在11年10月8日,10月14日投了2局再打出头鸟,楼上这局棋是11月1日投百24,投完后又摆弄别的模式,也沒进展,只好天天摆弄周软,后来发现连照胜中红带有连非连照,周软不起作用,长连照要走进300着,楼上的棋局必须再抽出黑2路卒,抽掉可以,但后面红设计的形必须改,于是我无心的把以下局面放入周软,2路放卒是让周软进行校阅,3秒多,显示150.当时头脑一热,做成动态发给王主编,顺便让他起个局名,当时王主编说发过去的文件打不开,那天实在太冷,我就先下了qq,睡觉时我在脑中复盘,发现红可抽吃黑右车,连照不成立,删去2路卒黑末局有车4平1使红断照,脑中复盘觉得连照要比非连照多一步,反正王主编没打开文件,明天再说吧.[DhtmlXQ]
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73#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-3 10:05:49 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 16:52 编辑

   笫二天我下班后打开qq,只见王主编qq头像在闪,一点击,三个字,打开了,我赶紧点击百24投稿区,可那天板块设置了阅读权限,有回复我看不到,只看到勇攀高峰帖子有回帖,一看是邢春波老师对勇攀局的诠正,完了,棋局不成立,当时我一想,再攀局删去黑2路卒,赶紧让王主编重发,但心里没底,见下图.[DhtmlXQ]
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74#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-3 10:17:53 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-3 17:06 编辑

   当天由于沒有权限看再攀局的帖子,是春波老师把再攀局移入勇攀局的帖子里,我一看,春波老师又将再再攀局诠正为红可非连照速胜,我让王主编发了搂上局面,但需验正,这样我有时间修改勇攀局,在春波老师的帮助下,修改成下图.[DhtmlXQ]
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75#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-3 10:24:32 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 10:58 编辑

   73搂的再攀局的最终验正,也是春波老师给出的,最后春波老师将再攀局修改成这样.[DhtmlXQ]
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76#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-3 11:11:22 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-29 18:48 编辑

     楼上这局棋的如果成立,我首先要感谢邓伟雄先生,邓先生创出无话可说的抽子模式,更要感谢王方权先生,是先生巧妙的在黑左下方构筑红方末局进攻的阵地,才创造出后来的突破,在此我感谢2位,另要感谢秦瑧兄长,春波老师,以及关心此局的人,最后要感谢伟大的周软.
77#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-3 15:15:35 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 09:14 编辑

   创作完以上几局后,我和春波老师合作,作了几局棋,投了百24,直到现在我一直在找路漫漫模式是否还有突破,没找到,只作了这一局,这局棋后半局变化实在实在太多,先贴出,验证只能慢慢来.[DhtmlXQ]
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78#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-3 16:53:10 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 19:52 编辑

    在选用的模式中,倪亚东的车马模式我一直没用,前面的模式都有进展,而这个模式一直没动,当时我看到这局棋的时候,局中车马模式真漂亮,46回合吃一子,[实为48回合] 当时我脑中一闪,只要再吃一子,就能走进300着,就是下面这局飞燕游龙的模式.[DhtmlXQ]
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79#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-3 17:17:45 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2014-1-10 19:33 编辑

3天就有了模形,大约半月时间才定稿,于11年12月11号投百24.[DhtmlXQ]
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80#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 08:44:38 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 21:04 编辑

     投稿后我整整化了2个月的时间,找找是否还有突破的可能,没找到,但在这段时间中我认识了春波老师,在交往中我提出合作,春波老师也同意,确切的说,二人共同创作是8局棋,7局和棋,1局连照胜,我觉得合作棋局要比1个人创作的棋局多些可读性,以下8局棋,是我和春波老师共同创作,从棋局中可看到合作的力量.[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20]余俊瑞老师指出的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]双方皆不能变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]诱着,黑如将6平5则红可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]败着,应马五进三再退四成主变着法,和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]
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81#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 08:53:17 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 21:10 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment54]正着黑如改走将5平6则会输棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment65]
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82#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 08:54:10 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 21:12 编辑

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83#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 08:55:42 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 21:15 编辑

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84#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 08:56:48 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 21:20 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]也是和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
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85#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 08:58:53 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 21:23 编辑

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86#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 09:01:09 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 21:25 编辑

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87#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 09:09:05 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-4 21:28 编辑

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88#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 09:33:55 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-5 12:28 编辑

   虽说只是8局一般棋局,但我觉得要比我1人作的棋局,可读性要多些,后来春波老师忙,就中断了合作,其实我知道原因,后来我作的棋局越来越大,变化也越来越复杂,[象77楼就是一例] 常常抅思棋局时,只要一方出现问题,脑中就闪出解决方法,我也不知怎么回事,越弄越复杂,而且,我认识的人不多,今后可能不会有合作者,当然,有人愿意,我会珍惜,中断合作后,我也作了几局.[DhtmlXQ]
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89#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 14:38:42 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-5 12:24 编辑

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90#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-7-4 14:39:05 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 桑莫喜 于 2013-7-5 12:26 编辑

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