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喜上眉梢 · 发表于 2014-9-18 02:33:08

菜鸟来玩发表于 2014-9-16 16:08

谢谢提供黑胜着法！这是强软给出的主变么？

菜鸟来玩 · 发表于 2014-9-18 08:08:00

不是强软，一般的软件，谢谢。

sdndsx · 发表于 2014-9-18 08:25:21

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-9-21 06:19 编辑

喜上眉梢发表于 2013-1-7 01:02
小二炮是黑胜局

撞车啦！！！！！！！！！！！

楼主原文此为黑胜局，我曾诠正于《百花齐放象棋谱》第21集，但因注解都被删除，着法欠细。

第7回合车3平5！！！是你发现的吗？象棋报早就发过啊！百16又补充了新的发现！
为此，我在象棋研究上专门发了简洁小二炮新探。

dave7788 · 发表于 2014-9-18 08:31:47

菜鸟来玩发表于 2014-9-18 08:08
不是强软，一般的软件，谢谢。

“一般”的软件就如此厉害啦！令人瞠目。
书上有文字记载，魔叔杨官璘为了研讨此局，特意上街摆设棋摊，这主要是为了集思广益，把这局棋研究整理出来。
从以前的研究来看，步伐很缓慢。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-9-18 09:19:44

菜鸟来玩发表于 2014-9-16 16:08

仍按照喜上眉梢的思路求和

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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-18 11:04:23

本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-9-18 16:00 编辑

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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-9-18 13:24:06

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-18 11:04

菜鸟认为第5回合走将6平5可黑胜，你把他改为炮7进8却是和棋，所以他会认为炮7进8是错过取胜机会。
我在黑将6平5后，第7回合由红方变着，把士五退四改为进六。可保不败，因此可以认为菜鸟的士五退四是败着。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-9-18 13:29:52

★星海★ 发表于 2014-9-18 13:27
炮7进8怎么错了？

如果将6平5可以取胜，而炮7进8胜不了，难道不是错吗？

★星海★ · 发表于 2014-9-18 13:41:57

yjr123 发表于 2014-9-18 09:19
仍按照喜上眉梢的思路求和

我认为士5进6还是黑胜，第6回合走炮走将没有实质差异。

★星海★ · 发表于 2014-9-18 13:45:16

本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-9-18 14:58 编辑

yjr123说以此楼为准，我再编辑一下，速胜2回合。
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-9-18 13:47:59

★星海★ 发表于 2014-9-18 13:32
37楼是黑胜故意走和了？

“短棹轻舟”新编着法诠正了原来的黑胜结论，认为是和棋，31楼菜鸟用软件认为诠正错误，应该是黑胜，要推翻菜鸟的结论就必须是由红方变着，法官拟着由黑变着，结论就没有说服力。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-9-18 14:48:21

“短棹轻舟”的最新结论是黑胜，着法以44楼星海的拟着为准。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-18 22:58:55

sdndsx 发表于 2014-9-18 08:25
撞车啦！！！！！！！！！！！

楼主原文此为黑胜局，我曾诠正于《百花齐放象棋谱》第21集，但因注 ...

可能沈先生不知道百21的事。两个人都单独发现也不奇怪。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-18 23:16:50

本帖最后由象棋法官于 2014-9-18 23:29 编辑

短棹轻舟我再增加一变，看看对不对，有的棋谱7回合平兵认为能和。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]仍按照喜上眉梢的思路[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
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菜鸟来玩 · 发表于 2014-9-18 23:19:10

象棋法官发表于 2014-9-18 22:58
可能沈先生不知道百21的事。两个人都单独发现也不奇怪。

不认识这位yir123是哪位高人，杀棋走成和棋，反过来说软件败招，实在是佩服

★星海★ · 发表于 2014-9-18 23:47:33

yjr123 发表于 2014-9-18 13:47
“短棹轻舟”新编着法诠正了原来的黑胜结论，认为是和棋，31楼菜鸟用软件认为诠正错误，应该是黑胜，要推 ...

实在不好意思，刚刚看帖发现18楼白宏宽老师的走法与44楼殊途同归。士五进六这一变黑胜结论应由白宏宽老师首先发现，不敢掠美。48楼的变化18楼也有。

dave7788 · 发表于 2014-9-19 19:34:46

★星海★ 发表于 2014-9-18 23:47
实在不好意思，刚刚看帖发现18楼白宏宽老师的走法与44楼殊途同归。士五进六这一变黑胜结论应由白宏宽老师 ...

我仅是按通声提出的想法解拆一下，很可能没有俊岭的走法精确。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 00:01:45

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2014-9-20 08:46 编辑

短棹輕舟加九路相或刪除邊卒可和,但棋局就平淡無味了,可第一著之後再紅黑子調換成紅勝局

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-20 00:04:06

不错，黑胜更精彩。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 00:16:20

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 07:46 编辑

想到一種有相無仕局面,能不能和?

　
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[DhtmlXQ_title] 短棹輕舟改局陳明仁改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 01:37:34

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 07:49 编辑

也黑勝,各有風韻:
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[DhtmlXQ_comment66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment66]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 08:25:14

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 07:51 编辑

刪除邊卒好像仍黑勝

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_74]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_73_4]48493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_73_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]軟[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 08:57:50

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 07:53 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_74]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_5_73_4]48493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_73_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_78]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]軟[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment53]||這樣可拖延步數\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_83_7]48493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_83_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment88]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 09:06:29

變著有錯誤,晚點再編輯修正

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-20 12:23:44

聨吟客发表于 2014-9-20 08:25
刪除邊卒好像仍黑勝

删除边卒能和

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 15:04:46

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 07:55 编辑

嗯,發現一種和法

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[DhtmlXQ_title] 短棹輕舟改局陳明仁改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_place]unknown[/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_74]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_5_73_4]48493738[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_73_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_78]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]軟[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 15:11:30

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 07:57 编辑

有邊卒也這樣走可否

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[DhtmlXQ_place]unknown[/DhtmlXQ_place]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]11214841213141618171616954535040534369497161494361514353514140503130465657475343072568582507887807257868250756464737584807256858250748380725382825074656374756574737434907255747374749412507417130405051072571792507283840307949302058484737514107254939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D29123%26page%3D2%26extra%3D[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-9-20 15:22:01

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999699957990799999999013154819999999941509999999916994668889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 短棹輕舟改局[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_place]unknown[/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]314116180111184881714841716141311121313921313949545350405343494361514353[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]11214841213141618171616954535040534369497161494361514353514140503130465657475343072568582507887807257868250756464737584807256858250748380725382825074656374756574737434907255747374749412507417130405051072571792507283840307949302058484737514107254939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]50405444404121314131444331326987887861517888514188780725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D29123%26page%3D3[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 19:23:42

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 08:04 编辑

嗯,完整走法

[ [DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999699957990799999999013154819999999941509999999916994668889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 短棹輕舟改局陳明仁改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_place]unknown[/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]31411618011118488171484171614131112131392131394954535040534349436151435351414050313046565747534369876858072988782907786807295646473758482907685887654838658738288769465637475657473743490725574737474941250758686987413130405051473731368765365637475659658768588769283840305848302059494737514169874939[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]11214841213141618171616954535040534369497161494361514353514140503130465657475343072568582507887807257868250756464737584807256858250748380725382825074656374756574737434907255747374749412507417130405051072571792507283840307949302058484737514107254939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]50405444404121314131444331326987887861517888514188780725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment74]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D29123%26page%3D2%26extra%3D[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999699957990799999999013154819999999941509999999916994668889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 短棹輕舟改局陳明仁改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_place]unknown[/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]314116180111184881714841716141311121313921313949545350405343494361514353[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]11214841213141618171616954535040534369497161494361514353514140503130465657475343072568582507887807257868250756464737584807256858250748380725382825074656374756574737434907255747374749412507417130405051072571792507283840307949302058484737514107254939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]50405444404121314131444331326987887861517888514188780725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D29123%26page%3D2%26extra%3D[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-9-20 19:48:45

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2021-3-22 08:06 编辑

不對,這樣可和?

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999699957990799999999013154819999999941509999999916994668889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 短棹輕舟改局陳明仁改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_place]unknown[/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]31411618011118488171484171614131112131392131394954535040534349436151435351414050313046565747534369876858072988782907786807295646473758482907685887654838658738288769465637475657473743493040494041405040072558686987[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]11214841213141618171616954535040534369497161494361514353514140503130465657475343072568582507887807257868250756464737584807256858250748380725382825074656374756574737434907255747374749412507417130405051072571792507283840307949302058484737514107254939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]50405444404121314131444331326987887861517888514188780725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_74]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_74]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_3]0725574737474941250758686987413130405051473731368765365637475659658768588769283840305848302059494737514169874939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_47_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D29123%26page%3D2%26extra%3D[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.dpxq.com[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]

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