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[专题局研究] 华工象棋高手多 众人拾柴火焰高【最好首着不吃子,五兵梅花醒目】

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发表于 2014-9-19 09:59:18 | 只看该作者 |只看大图 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2017-4-26 18:26 编辑

我有三局 五兵梅花 拙作曾被白宏宽老师收进百19.说实话,我自己都觉得不够满意,只是闭门造车而得,由于功力很糟糕,至今没能再提高,我之前就说过我上网是菜鸟级,至今不会玩QQ和智能手机,象棋软件更是不会用,敬请大家在五兵梅花这个题材进行探讨,我把条件说明如下:

1 梅花图案由五个红兵组成,每个红兵都起作用
2 为了保持五兵梅花图案更加醒目,周边相邻的直线上的四个点不要有其他的棋子
3 红方连照取胜,第一步红方不吃子

百19我暂时还没找到,敬请大家方便的话,帮忙贴上
抛砖引玉,可以增着修改我的拙作,可以排拟新局,祝大家大作频出!!!!!
下面我把蒋晓春先生博客中找到的一局先贴在下面

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]着法:红先胜||发表于《象棋绝杀与妙和》。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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此局的红方66位兵虽然没有走动,但作用很大!

最新添加20170426

五兵全动的醒目五兵梅花九款,期盼大家集思广益、互相启迪、大作频出!谢谢!














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2#
发表于 2014-9-19 11:14:02 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]与主着法弈完第10回合时的形势基本相同,红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_18]
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发表于 2014-9-19 11:14:52 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2014-9-19 11:15:10 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment43]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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5#
发表于 2014-9-19 17:25:46 | 只看该作者
五兵组梅花很有创意!!该三局首尾图案优美。
特别是《菱苑探梅》 局结尾图案令人叫绝!
五兵集结一起且未置红炮更让创作难度增加。
欣赏梅花犹如看画家挥洒自如完成美妙的图画。
你本来就很美!!让人不忍随意改动!!

6#
发表于 2014-9-20 23:31:05 | 只看该作者
不太符合要求。[DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-21 10:28:44 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-9-21 10:30 编辑

恭喜您!本帖新局沙发啊!非连招胜啊。
8#
发表于 2014-9-22 22:32:02 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 陈财运 于 2014-9-22 23:00 编辑

添置了红双炮,比车马兵简单点。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-23 06:04:24 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-9-23 10:07 编辑
陈财运 发表于 2014-9-22 22:32
添置了红双炮,比车马兵简单点。


先生的大作比我的好!五兵梅花的位置也不同,回合数比我多,完全符合3个条件,真是太棒了!祝贺您!
您看我的第一局,主变还是燕尾双叉,太让人不满意了!
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发表于 2014-9-23 22:43:06 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2014-9-24 00:22:28 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2014-9-24 01:12:48 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-24 06:12:14 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-9-26 05:52 编辑
陈财运 发表于 2014-9-23 22:43


先生又一大作成功!恭喜您!完全符合3个条件。
我的柮作当时的想法是:红方只有车马五兵,梅花分 高 中 低 三个位置形成组局。可惜我没有这个能力完成,就是旷野寻梅那一局,多加了一车一马,仅仅是为了增加一两步着法。

我恳请大家修改我的旷野寻梅,能不能去掉红方多出的一车一马,增加回合数最好,维持原来的回合数亦可。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-24 06:16:05 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-9-25 13:58 编辑
τ.半路浅唱 发表于 2014-9-24 01:12


祝贺您!先生你的大作不是连照胜啊!不符合本帖第3条啊。贴在此处也欢迎。
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发表于 2014-9-24 22:29:55 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2014-9-24 23:20:42 | 只看该作者
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18#
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19#
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20#
发表于 2014-9-25 06:32:48 | 只看该作者
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22#
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24#
发表于 2014-9-25 07:14:44 | 只看该作者
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25#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-25 07:52:17 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-9-25 12:38 编辑

本帖欢迎秦老师!!!
不得了啦,先生的大作 高位五兵梅花“井喷”!!而且还有不吃子的!还有对称的!超赞!!!!!
26#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-25 09:29:22 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-9-25 12:42 编辑

再次恳请大家,修改我的狂野寻梅,条件是:一车一马五兵梅花,符合3个条件!可以挂名在前。
27#
发表于 2014-9-25 12:13:05 | 只看该作者
sdndsx 发表于 2014-9-25 09:29
再次恳请大家,修改我的狂野寻梅,条件是:一车一马五兵梅花,符合3个条件!可以挂名。

单车马五兵难度特大!!《旷野寻梅》局减一车可少两回合,而减一马则该局无法成立。
试拟一局,着法很少!!
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28#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-25 12:27:29 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2014-9-25 12:36 编辑

先生又有大作啦!而且是红黑两朵梅花啊!

祝愿五兵梅花——枝繁叶茂,花团锦簇!!!!
我有一种预感,很快就会有  中位低位  的五兵梅花大作出来!
29#
发表于 2014-9-25 13:17:40 | 只看该作者
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