华工象棋高手多众人拾柴火焰高【最好首着不吃子，五兵梅花醒目】

湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-22 09:03:34

sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-22 08:45
谢谢您！非常敬佩您的排局功底！
最近事务繁忙，等过一段时间，我会学习先生的妙局！

时先生太客气了我只是小辈多向你们学习才是

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-22 09:24:06

各位朋友：我在贴一个高原红老师（终生敬佩）的超高位五兵梅花连照胜妙局。

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sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-23 08:55:56

各位朋友：由于2015春节前的期末事务繁忙，曾告假一段时间，回复耽误了。请多加包涵。
下面我将从107楼杨启忠好友的跟帖开始，对有图无着的妙局，试着解拆，水平有限，不一定就对。

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-23 09:17:21

107楼杨启忠好友的42回合连照胜妙局。

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yanyun · 发表于 2015-4-23 09:48:48

五兵中有冗子就不是真正的五兵梅花。

yanyun · 发表于 2015-4-23 09:56:39

yanyun 发表于 2014-9-28 07:15

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sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-23 09:56:44

114楼胡艓先生的32回合连照胜妙局，无冗子。

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sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-23 10:04:12

yanyun 发表于 2015-4-23 09:48
五兵中有冗子就不是真正的五兵梅花。

谢谢yanyun老师！集思广益，逐步改进，借鉴思路，争取去掉冗子。

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-23 10:09:33

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-23 10:15:14

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2015-4-23 10:18 编辑

各位朋友：超高位五兵梅花，一定有一个红兵还没有过河，能不能创作出无冗子的排局呢。

yanyun · 发表于 2015-4-23 12:20:19

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湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-23 20:43:05

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湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-23 21:11:57

132L局很有特色双方子力一致
开局红得一卒
终局黑吃一兵
子力仍然一致

湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-23 21:15:31

sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-23 09:56
114楼胡艓先生的32回合连照胜妙局，无冗子。

115L已提高至37回合

生于1973 · 发表于 2015-4-23 21:25:35

本帖最后由生于1973 于 2015-4-23 22:21 编辑

湖艓发表于 2015-4-23 21:15
115L已提高至37回合

湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-24 04:28:27

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sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-24 09:50:47

湖艓发表于 2015-4-24 04:28

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-24 09:55:06

各位朋友：目前我刚刚试解到114楼。事务繁忙，多有耽误。敬请谅解！我会努力解拆的。

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-24 09:59:14

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yanyun 发表于 2015-4-23 12:20

谢谢您！高位五兵梅花连照胜，您的大作五兵都动了。好！

湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-24 11:01:21

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sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-24 11:22:38

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115楼我试着解拆是33回合（不是37回合），我的解拆可能不对。请胡艓先生指正。谢谢！

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湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-24 11:32:32

sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-24 11:22
115楼我试着解拆是33回合（不是37回合），我的解拆可能不对。请胡艓先生指正。谢谢！

对不起我记错了
当时我发在自己的帖子里了“有条件的等子排局”
也就是双方子数一样
河界两边子数也一样

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湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-24 11:34:22

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sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-24 09:59
谢谢您！超高位五兵梅花连照胜，您的大作五兵都动了。好！

您是指131L吗？按照您的定义秦老师这局并不是超高位呀？
按我的理解这个未过河的兵
如果它要走动的话到其他四兵走散后黑方送一子才有机会进一
这个也许比较难实现
改成被吃掉吧如果不被吃掉会缩减着法或杀法不成立
不知道这样算不算半冗子

132# 136# 140#可否？

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-24 11:52:23

116楼我试着解拆是34回合，我的解拆可能不对。请胡艓先生指正。谢谢！

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湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-24 11:58:26

sdndsx 发表于 2015-4-24 11:52
116楼我试着解拆是34回合，我的解拆可能不对。请胡艓先生指正。谢谢！

时先生客气了这局有冗子有时间再拟这个中位梅花

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-24 11:58:52

湖艓发表于 2015-4-24 11:34
您是指131L吗？按照您的定义秦老师这局并不是超高位呀？
按我的理解这个未过河的兵
如果它要走动 ...

谢谢！您说的对！131楼是高位。目前我刚解拆到116楼。

sdndsx · 发表于 2015-4-24 12:09:09

湖艓发表于 2015-4-24 11:34
您是指131L吗？按照您的定义秦老师这局并不是超高位呀？
按我的理解这个未过河的兵
如果它要走动 ...

先生对超高位的见解独到！难度可能会很大，继续加油！

zhaodi · 发表于 2015-4-24 19:16:37

来一局超高位的，143楼说的对，这个未过河的兵，如果它要走动的话到其他四兵走散后黑方送一子才有机会进一这个也许比较难实现
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zhaodi · 发表于 2015-4-24 19:29:24

再来局，仿王老师的作品，，有冗子，2兵未动。但开始局面好看。

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湖艓 · 发表于 2015-4-24 20:50:42

zhaodi 发表于 2015-4-24 19:29
再来局，仿王老师的作品，，有冗子，2兵未动。但开始局面好看。

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