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发表于 2017-8-17 13:26:54 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2017-8-16 21:20
以前不懂,看帖不回帖,一直到最近,我才突然明白了,回帖原来不仅是种道德,对楼主辛苦的成果有所表示,还 ...

幫我查一下49樓的大陸規則如何判?

太久沒用呆呆男貼圖,  都忘了網站有這功能

呵呵呵呵呵..........................
发表于 2017-8-17 14:52:12 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-17 13:26
幫我查一下49樓的大陸規則如何判?

太久沒用呆呆男貼圖,  都忘了網站有這功能

没犯规啊!你车常抓炮,走的是新步子不算犯规、
什么叫新步子?答:见下图
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发表于 2017-8-17 20:56:24 | 显示全部楼层
58樓不行
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发表于 2017-8-17 21:14:33 | 显示全部楼层
剑影¤独步 发表于 2017-8-17 14:52
没犯规啊!你车常抓炮,走的是新步子不算犯规、
什么叫新步子?答:见下图

例子不一樣吧,49樓的疑問是紅車一將一伏平炮逼黑兌車可多吃一卒, 這樣構不構成紅一將一伏抽吃卒的犯規?
如果犯規,  那麼刪邊兵局大陸規則仍黑勝,  殊為可惜

或者吃卒是多步以後的事所以紅不算犯規? 大陸規則太複雜,有誰可以給我答案呢?
发表于 2017-8-18 00:35:27 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-17 21:14
例子不一樣吧,49樓的疑問是紅車一將一伏平炮逼黑兌車可多吃一卒, 這樣構不構成紅一將一伏抽吃卒的犯規?
...

常抓和常将规则大于常杀
关键炮又没进行作杀,还差两步。
炮走的是闲,你车虽不能平开,但是走的车拦炮有带吃的意思,只要出现有带吃无根子的意思就认定为抓。
关键常杀等级低于常抓或常将,所以抓方要被判犯规的。
常抓、常将规则最大,常作杀规则轻些,常拦规则最轻(最多判和)
发表于 2017-8-18 04:02:57 | 显示全部楼层
補充,真的沒人告訴我大陸規則如何判決嗎?
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发表于 2017-8-18 04:03:40 | 显示全部楼层
補充,真的沒人告訴我大陸規則如何判決嗎?
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发表于 2017-8-18 04:04:08 | 显示全部楼层
補充,真的沒人告訴我大陸規則如何判決嗎?
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发表于 2017-8-19 08:01:58 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2017-8-20 08:45 编辑

我想了很久,49樓與68樓大陸規則可能仍判黑勝, 紅方一將一伏平炮叫將逼黑兌車可多吃一卒,所以等於是一將一伏抽吃卒,我對大陸規則的理解是這樣,不知大家認為呢?

問了那麼久都沒有人回答我?   棋規說明 或實戰判決都沒有類似的例子嗎?呵呵呵..
要不有誰幫我問一下裁判大師看看?
发表于 2017-8-19 10:20:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2017-8-20 08:45 编辑

樓上解釋又有點問題,因為卒是被帥所抽吃,  而將帥捉吃子本為閑,所以也不算是紅犯規了??????

呵呵呵呵呵,難怪 沒人回答我, 這個局面要解釋的規則太複雜,  沒有把握判得正確嗎?
发表于 2017-8-20 11:44:51 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-19 10:20
樓上解釋又有點問題,因為卒是被帥所抽吃,  而將帥捉吃子本為閑,所以也不算是紅犯規了??????

呵呵呵 ...

陈兄,可否绕开规则,19回红炮九平六,满意否?
发表于 2017-8-20 14:53:02 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2017-8-20 15:20 编辑

那樣變化很複雜 有待研究
18回合進將(即49樓),紅方 仍須面對規則,避不了的, 我的 最新理解是判和局

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发表于 2017-8-20 17:17:43 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-20 14:53
那樣變化很複雜 有待研究
18回合進將(即49樓),紅方 仍須面對規則,避不了的, 我的 最新理解是判和局

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 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-20 17:19:10 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-20 14:53
那樣變化很複雜 有待研究
18回合進將(即49樓),紅方 仍須面對規則,避不了的, 我的 最新理解是判和局

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对于49楼的待判局面,作为楼主,回复迟慢。敬请 联吟客 老师多加包涵!
为什么回复迟慢?
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-20 17:30:43 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2017-8-21 07:40 编辑

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 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-20 17:43:23 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2017-8-21 07:27 编辑

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发表于 2017-8-20 18:50:00 | 显示全部楼层
  原來時老師是一級裁判,失敬失敬感謝回覆

最後卒被帥所抽吃的性質算是紅犯規嗎?如果時老師有認識國家級裁判再幫我問看看以做確認

76樓2回合黑可進3路卒如何
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-21 05:38:26 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-20 18:50
原來時老師是一級裁判,失敬失敬感謝回覆

最後卒被帥所抽吃的性質算是紅犯規嗎?如果時老師有認識國家 ...

最後卒被帥所抽吃的性質算是紅犯規嗎?

黑卒被帅吃掉,是走动红车后,导致双方 子力交换 的后果。需要判定的循环棋步是  走动红车 这步棋,至于红帅吃掉黑卒,是为了判定循环棋步性质而推导出来的,不是循环棋步,不需要判定。

76樓2回合黑可進3路卒如何?

只要不是循环棋步,就不需要判定。
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-21 07:09:05 | 显示全部楼层
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这个局面,红方可以这样走,巧妙地利用 现行 棋规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment1]不是循环棋步,不需要判定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1][DhtmlXQ_comment3]不是循环棋步,不需要判定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3][DhtmlXQ_comment4]是循环棋步!需要判定。||||判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4][DhtmlXQ_comment5]是循环棋步!需要判定。||||判 拦。||||理由:||1 红车不能离线(中路)!红车与黑炮 的关系,是 拦。||2 走子前,双方通过 子力交换 红方多吃一卒,已经存在。||走子后,依然存在。从捉到捉,没有发生新的捉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5][DhtmlXQ_comment6]判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6][DhtmlXQ_comment7]判 拦。||||理由:||1 红车不能离线(中路)!红车与黑炮 的关系,是 拦。||2 走子前,双方通过 子力交换 红方多吃一卒,已经存在。||走子后,依然存在。从捉到捉,没有发生新的捉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7][DhtmlXQ_comment8]判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8][DhtmlXQ_comment13]红方长拦。||黑方两闲。||不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13][DhtmlXQ_comment2]不是循环棋步,不需要判定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
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发表于 2017-8-21 09:35:24 | 显示全部楼层
仍不是很懂 ,那就這樣吧,大陸判黑勝此局真的可惜

台灣規則同亞洲規則判和,這樣我心裡好過一點

79樓3回合黑仍應進將
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-21 18:10:52 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2017-8-21 18:42 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-21 09:35
仍不是很懂 ,那就這樣吧,大陸判黑勝此局真的可惜

台灣規則同亞洲規則判和,這樣我心裡好過一點:lo ...

联吟客 老师:
您可能误会了,学生我在74楼对49楼的判定:红方必须变着,不变作负。79楼学生我给出了判定:双方不变作和。并没有判定黑胜啊。学生我是站在您的角度啊!红方不可以按79楼走棋吗?即便是按76楼走棋,双方不变也是作和吗!也没有判定黑胜啊。

您在80楼提出:79樓3回合黑仍應進將?
按您的提示,学生我只能推导出以下的循环局面和判定:
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]以上双方着法都不是循环棋步,不需要判定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4][DhtmlXQ_comment5]是循环棋步,需要判定。||||判 捉。||||理由:||1 走子前,红方平炮将军,黑炮可垫将。||走子后,红方平炮将军,黑炮不能垫将了。只能兑车。通过 子力交换(不是红帅捉卒),红方多吃一个卒。判 捉。||2 红车与黑炮 的关系并不是 捉!是 拦!||因为红车不能离线(中路)!离线会被将死!只能是 拦。||3 捉兼拦,从重判 捉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5][DhtmlXQ_comment6]判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6][DhtmlXQ_comment7]判 将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7][DhtmlXQ_comment8]判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8][DhtmlXQ_comment12]红方一字一将。||黑方两闲。||红方必须变着,不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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80楼:仍不是很懂 。

哪里不懂?尽管贴出来。互相交流,互相启迪,就贴论帖,共同探讨。应该是正能量。

发表于 2017-8-21 23:04:27 | 显示全部楼层
我倆誤會了嗎?應該沒有吧

79 樓3回合黑如進將,時老師認為黑勝沒錯吧,依照時老師判決黑勝,所以我說可惜啊
(雖然我仍對帥抽吃卒的判決存疑)

76樓紅也不好和,2回合黑進3路卒如何?
发表于 2017-8-29 22:31:07 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2017-8-30 01:01 编辑

紅直接退車攔炮變化,這樣紅該如何應付?
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红先和[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2]判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]判 拦。||||为什么?||1 红车与黑炮 的关系仍然是拦。红车不能离线!||2 走子前,通过 子力交换 多吃一卒,已经存在。||走子后,从捉到捉 没有发生质的变化。||判 拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]红方一捉一拦。||黑方两闲。||变着作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]判 捉。||||理由:||1 走子前,红方平炮将军,黑炮可垫将。||走子后,红方平炮将军,黑炮垫将会被将死。只能兑车。通过 子力交换(不是红帅捉卒),红方多吃一个卒。||2 红车与黑炮 的关系并不是 捉!是 拦!||因为红车不能离线(中路)!离线会被将死!只能是 拦。||3 捉兼拦,从重判 捉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]這樣紅該如何應付||也很複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]沈老師研究相同局面是黑優可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]應這樣!![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
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发表于 2017-8-29 23:17:34 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2017-8-30 01:08 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_result]红先和[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2]判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]判 闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]判 拦。||||为什么?||1 红车与黑炮 的关系仍然是拦。红车不能离线!||2 走子前,通过 子力交换 多吃一卒,已经存在。||走子后,从捉到捉 没有发生质的变化。||判 拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]红方一捉一拦。||黑方两闲。||变着作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]判 捉。||||理由:||1 走子前,红方平炮将军,黑炮可垫将。||走子后,红方平炮将军,黑炮垫将会被将死。只能兑车。通过 子力交换(不是红帅捉卒),红方多吃一个卒。||2 红车与黑炮 的关系并不是 捉!是 拦!||因为红车不能离线(中路)!离线会被将死!只能是 拦。||3 捉兼拦,从重判 捉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]這樣紅該如何應付||也很複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]應這樣!![/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]沈老師研究相同局面是黑優可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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发表于 2017-8-29 23:18:50 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2017-8-30 01:03 编辑

此局變化 不少,  一時難以全部釐清..........

希望大家踴躍一些
   
发表于 2017-9-5 13:01:05 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵:
1楼图其实是和局!
1. 后车平六  前卒平4      2. 车六平四!  卒7平6
  3. 车四退一  卒5平6      4. 帅四平五  车4平5
  5. 帅五平六  车5退7      6. 车一平三  炮7平9!(以下就比较简单了)
。。。。。。
和局。
发表于 2017-9-5 13:26:23 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 hzsjy 于 2017-9-5 13:37 编辑

好像2011的棋规是棋协的试行版。不是国家体委的正式版(1999版是国家体委的正式版)。
2011版引入了联合捉子的概念对排局来说不是一个好事,很多名局又要判死刑了。
发表于 2017-9-5 13:31:38 | 显示全部楼层
研究看看
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发表于 2017-9-5 13:33:01 | 显示全部楼层
研究看看
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发表于 2017-9-5 13:39:48 | 显示全部楼层
我的着法:
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[DhtmlXQ_move_22_13_28]79744838060535360504364604144647743447571424384834384838[/DhtmlXQ_move_22_13_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局为网友“棋在江湖 ”提供。无局名,无着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_107]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_107]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_73]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_54]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_41]例和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]例和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_40]例和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_64]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_59]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_75]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_75]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_41]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_49]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_112]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_112]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_20]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_28]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_44]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_26]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_24]
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