【转帖】江湖残局

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-7-21 04:49:10

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-7-21 19:01:39

51 樓17回合黑也可炮5進2
就以50樓再研究
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-7-21 19:21:35

有點驚險,呵呵呵 , 紅也還守得住
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-7-24 22:03:45

53樓應和局了吧

49樓的大陸規則到底怎麼判?判和呢? 還是紅一將一逼黑兌車後可多吃一卒(算捉嗎?)判黑勝呢?

誰能解釋一下呢?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-16 09:32:45

sdndsx 发表于 2017-8-16 08:01
新的跟帖匿名网友(IP：117.157.64.★)： 2017-8-15 13:20:00

這樣大陸規則怎麼判?
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-16 09:38:37

49樓的大陸規則到底如何判?怎麼都沒有人回答我??????????

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-17 13:26:54

剑影¤独步发表于 2017-8-16 21:20
以前不懂，看帖不回帖，一直到最近，我才突然明白了，回帖原来不仅是种道德，对楼主辛苦的成果有所表示，还 ...

幫我查一下49樓的大陸規則如何判?

太久沒用呆呆男貼圖, 都忘了網站有這功能

呵呵呵呵呵..........................

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-17 20:56:24

58樓不行
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-17 21:14:33

剑影¤独步发表于 2017-8-17 14:52
没犯规啊！你车常抓炮，走的是新步子不算犯规、
什么叫新步子？答：见下图

例子不一樣吧,49樓的疑問是紅車一將一伏平炮逼黑兌車可多吃一卒, 這樣構不構成紅一將一伏抽吃卒的犯規?
如果犯規, 那麼刪邊兵局大陸規則仍黑勝, 殊為可惜

或者吃卒是多步以後的事所以紅不算犯規? 大陸規則太複雜,有誰可以給我答案呢?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-18 04:02:57

補充,真的沒人告訴我大陸規則如何判決嗎?
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-18 04:03:40

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-18 04:04:08

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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_23]能和否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]這種局面能和否\u003F||與沈濟英老師研究討論類似局面結果應可和,也沒有別人提出異議\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-19 08:01:58

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-8-20 08:45 编辑

我想了很久,49樓與68樓大陸規則可能仍判黑勝, 紅方一將一伏平炮叫將逼黑兌車可多吃一卒,所以等於是一將一伏抽吃卒,我對大陸規則的理解是這樣,不知大家認為呢?

問了那麼久都沒有人回答我? 棋規說明或實戰判決都沒有類似的例子嗎?呵呵呵..
要不有誰幫我問一下裁判大師看看?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-19 10:20:39

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-8-20 08:45 编辑

樓上解釋又有點問題,因為卒是被帥所抽吃, 而將帥捉吃子本為閑,所以也不算是紅犯規了??????

呵呵呵呵呵,難怪沒人回答我, 這個局面要解釋的規則太複雜, 沒有把握判得正確嗎?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-20 14:53:02

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-8-20 15:20 编辑

那樣變化很複雜有待研究
18回合進將(即49樓),紅方仍須面對規則,避不了的, 我的最新理解是判和局

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-20 18:50:00

原來時老師是一級裁判,失敬失敬

感謝回覆

最後卒被帥所抽吃的性質算是紅犯規嗎?如果時老師有認識國家級裁判再幫我問看看以做確認

76樓2回合黑可進3路卒如何

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-21 09:35:24

仍不是很懂 ,那就這樣吧,大陸判黑勝此局真的可惜

台灣規則同亞洲規則判和,這樣我心裡好過一點

79樓3回合黑仍應進將

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-21 23:04:27

我倆誤會了嗎?應該沒有吧

79 樓3回合黑如進將,時老師認為黑勝沒錯吧,依照時老師判決黑勝,所以我說可惜啊
(雖然我仍對帥抽吃卒的判決存疑)

76樓紅也不好和,2回合黑進3路卒如何?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-29 22:31:07

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紅直接退車攔炮變化,這樣紅該如何應付?
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-29 23:17:34

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-8-29 23:18:50

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此局變化不少, 一時難以全部釐清..........

希望大家踴躍一些

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-5 13:31:38

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-5 13:33:01

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-5 13:44:20

hzsjy 发表于 2017-9-5 13:26
好像２０１１的棋规是棋协的试行版。不是国家体委的正式版（１９９９版是国家体委的正式版）。
２０１１版 ...

哦

棋協和體委各自定規則?呵呵呵, 頭大了

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-8 23:44:49

呵呵呵,我只知香港澳門一般情況下仍沿用亞洲規則

不知道其他地方賽事還有不同的規則

如果這樣江湖棋攤的三兵連營局走動炮架(相)長捉卒作和,也真的可算是棋攤上的專屬規則囉??

如果我們做局可以依照這種規則豈不又亂了套了??!!呵呵呵..........

亞洲規則的存在可替某些古代名局解套,而且網路時代的線上對弈網站以及軟件開發基本上都用亞洲規則,
因為大陸規則太複雜又幾次修改,所以亞規反而在網路軟件上適者生存,呵呵

但是如果再多幾種規則出來,那就太混亂了.................

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