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[排局诠正] 千古谜局精解之最新成果!

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发表于 2017-8-23 21:53:28 | 显示全部楼层
只要106 樓走法(包括黑方各種變著)紅能和局就可以了

老話一句,12回合 兵四平五,黑方的變化相對較少
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发表于 2017-8-24 11:51:35 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-23 21:53
只要106 樓走法(包括黑方各種變著)紅能和局就可以了

老話一句,12回合 兵四平五,黑方的變化相對較少

对嘛。支持一下!
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-24 12:03:28 | 显示全部楼层

再说一下:106楼之走法其实是 真黑胜!根本和不了!
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]不變和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]還有這樣和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15_42]||詮注本認為可和但未||走完[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_49]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_49]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_39_7]34244252242852512858[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_39_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_39]這樣應簡明較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_45]||紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_43]紅優[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_41_11]5161[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_41_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]複雜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]簡明[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_42_5]4979333242525161[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_42_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_43]||此時仍可這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_50]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_50]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_48]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_13_48_14]58483848354551414546072546564333[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_48_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_34]感覺不是最好的選擇[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_34]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_42] 和[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]紅優可勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment47]
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-24 12:06:38 | 显示全部楼层

149楼:这样,红怎么和?
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]……亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]炮7平8……[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]仍平兵較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样呢?[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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发表于 2017-8-24 12:10:48 | 显示全部楼层
大征西 发表于 2017-8-24 12:03
再说一下:106楼之走法其实是 真黑胜!根本和不了!

106樓哪個變化黑勝呢?
发表于 2017-8-24 12:55:07 | 显示全部楼层
大征西 发表于 2017-8-24 12:06
149楼:这样,红怎么和?

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[DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]441430505848323141425040[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]……亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]炮7平8……[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]仍平兵較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]这样呢?[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-24 18:15:25 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-23 21:53
只要106 樓走法(包括黑方各種變著)紅能和局就可以了

老話一句,12回合 兵四平五,黑方的變化相對較少

明确一下:106楼其实并没有穷尽黑方的所有重大变招,…否则 何以有 千古谜局精解之问世?!……
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-24 18:58:45 | 显示全部楼层

  
再接149楼: 第十回合 黑10.将4进1!…红又怎么和?
发表于 2017-8-25 02:38:01 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2017-8-25 09:19 编辑
大征西 发表于 2017-8-24 18:58
再接149楼: 第十回合 黑10.将4进1!…红又怎么和?

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[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2017-7-21 10:27:51[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
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[DhtmlXQ_round]三集[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]441430505848323141425040[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]……亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]炮7平8……[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]仍平兵較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]這樣較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
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发表于 2017-8-25 07:55:12 | 显示全部楼层
大征西 发表于 2017-8-24 18:15
明确一下:106楼其实并没有穷尽黑方的所有重大变招,…否则 何以有 千古谜局精解之问世?!……

那麼黑要如何變化才能取勝呢??您要提出具體走法讓人檢驗 才行啊

光口頭說說不行的
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-25 11:02:29 | 显示全部楼层
如果您要坚持 和棋结论,同样也要拿出 和棋之着法让人检验才行! 不要只要求别人给你着法!。。。
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-25 11:05:21 | 显示全部楼层

换着了,真是不慢!不过,这样,也是 黑胜!。。。
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[DhtmlXQ_round]三集[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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发表于 2017-8-25 11:20:50 | 显示全部楼层
大征西 发表于 2017-8-25 11:02
如果您要坚持 和棋结论,同样也要拿出 和棋之着法让人检验才行! 不要只要求别人给你着法!。。。

我已經提出 106樓走法是和局啊

是你認為黑勝又提不出黑勝走法
发表于 2017-8-25 11:37:44 | 显示全部楼层
大征西 发表于 2017-8-25 11:05
换着了,真是不慢!不过,这样,也是 黑胜!。。。

你可以修正多次,我當然也可以修正啊 ,任何人討論都可以修正啊
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发表于 2017-8-25 11:52:30 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-25 11:20
我已經提出 106樓走法是和局啊

是你認為黑勝又提不出黑勝走法

補充

而且目前棋壇只有你一人認為此局黑勝,眾多排棋家古譜詮注者與討論者們都認為和局

研究過程中我們當然偶爾也有錯但 修正後和局結論應無問題

很佩服你一人力戰群雄以及出書說黑勝的勇氣

但走法到底能不能讓人信服呢?如果你真能推翻此局和局結論倒也是美事一樁,我也樂觀其成

可是每當大家 研討提出和局走法時,  你又無法 提出正確的黑勝具體走法...........
发表于 2017-8-25 14:17:41 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2017-8-25 11:52
補充

而且目前棋壇只有你一人認為此局黑勝,眾多排棋家古譜詮注者與討論者們都認為和局

呵呵 真理往往在少数人手里!同时真理不是一种铸币,现成地摆在那儿,可以拿来藏在衣袋里。


就是说,真理是一种铸币,现成地摆在那儿,可以拿来藏在衣袋里。

但我可说,1楼第22回合红如走相三退一是黑胜。有没有反驳的?

发表于 2017-8-25 15:01:58 | 显示全部楼层
zhaodi 发表于 2017-8-25 14:17
呵呵 真理往往在少数人手里!同时真理不是一种铸币,现成地摆在那儿,可以拿来藏在衣袋里。

不太明白趙老師要表達什麼

因紅走劣著而黑勝嗎?

還是此局黑勝是真理?

棋局上的真理是要走法經得起檢驗的,不同於宗教哲學甚至文學詩詞等隨個人主觀之喜好



发表于 2017-8-25 19:14:07 | 显示全部楼层
直白的说,大征西蒋兄认为他是少数人,真理就在他那边,并且他的署名的表达的意思是:真理不可以拿出来。所以,大家都说和棋他说黑胜,你要招法,他就是不拿出来。

呵呵,玩笑。

我后面说的是,我认为1楼的第22回合红如果走相三退一,就是黑胜,这个结论是真理。
发表于 2017-8-25 19:32:50 | 显示全部楼层
zhaodi 发表于 2017-8-25 19:14
直白的说,大征西蒋兄认为他是少数人,真理就在他那边,并且他的署名的表达的意思是:真理不可以拿出来。所 ...



聽君當頭棒喝, 在下頓悟了!!

真理無所不在, 不可說!說不得! 阿彌陀佛,  善哉!善哉!
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-26 09:33:13 | 显示全部楼层
明确一下:红22.兵三平二 一变这个变化 黑必胜!
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大征西 发表于 2017-8-26 09:33
明确一下:红22.兵三平二 一变,这个变化 黑必胜!

第11回合,红兵三平四,黑为何将4进1?直接卒4进1就将死红了!
第14回合红兵六平五如何犯规?
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-27 10:39:42 | 显示全部楼层
zhaodi 发表于 2017-8-26 10:17
第11回合,红兵三平四,黑为何将4进1?直接卒4进1就将死红了!
第14回合红兵六平五如何犯规?

第十一回合 红兵三平四,黑应11.卒4进1 即黑胜也!
第十四回合 红兵六平五 虽暂时不违规,但续走下去黑仍可胜!请见下一楼!。。。
  
  
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-27 10:42:56 | 显示全部楼层
大征西 发表于 2017-8-26 09:33
明确一下:红22.兵三平二 一变,这个变化 黑必胜!

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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]?软着[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]正![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红须变着,否则犯规![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]这样,红违棋规![/DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]黑胜定![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]![/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]红须变着,否则违规![/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_32]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]正[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]
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发表于 2017-8-27 11:07:37 | 显示全部楼层

蒋兄用的什么规则?怎么和我们大家的不一样啊?我认为炮进退不犯规。

就算按你的规则,第15回合红需变招,为何要走兵四平三?走相七退九不好吗?如果落相违规了,再走炮进退。是否你的规则规定,只要红有杀棋就是违规,必须变到黑胜的着法上去?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]……亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]炮7平8……[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]仍平兵較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_16]![/DhtmlXQ_comment11_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]?软着[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]正![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红须变着,否则犯规![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]这样,红违棋规![/DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]黑胜定![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]![/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
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发表于 2017-8-27 11:21:29 | 显示全部楼层
也是和局
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]:[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]……亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]炮7平8……[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]仍平兵較好[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_16]![/DhtmlXQ_comment11_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]?软着[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]正![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红须变着,否则犯规![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]这样,红违棋规![/DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]黑胜定![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]![/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]正[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_30]
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修正一變
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_19]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]……亦和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]炮7平8……[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_20]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]红须变着,否则犯规![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]这样,红违棋规![/DhtmlXQ_comment10_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]黑胜定![/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]黑胜![/DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]![/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]
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发表于 2017-8-27 11:54:34 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵呵,蔣兄的規則與我們認知的不一樣 ,這個規則判決並不複雜,13回合退炮或退相, 都是和局 無爭議的啦

 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-27 21:11:51 | 显示全部楼层
必须说明:第13回合红退炮或退相,都是违反11
新规!不能以一个违规顶替另一个违规就认为是不违规,这是什么逻辑?这是 为了和棋而和棋 的逻辑!…第十三回合退炮或退相都是违规,不变作负!都是黑胜
发表于 2017-8-27 21:25:10 | 显示全部楼层
大征西 发表于 2017-8-27 21:11
必须说明:第13回合红退炮或退相,都是违反11
新规!不能以一个违规顶替另一个违规就认为是不违规,这是什 ...

动炮或动相都是违反11新规?

请说明违反的是哪条哪款?具体规定原文如何说的?
 楼主| 发表于 2017-8-27 21:46:41 | 显示全部楼层
zhaodi 发表于 2017-8-27 11:07
蒋兄用的什么规则?怎么和我们大家的不一样啊?我认为炮进退不犯规。

就算按你的规则,第15回合红需变 ...

赵兄用的又是什么规则?我认为进退炮或进退相都是违规!而且红方不能以一个违规顶替另一个违规就算是合规而规避犯规!再者,第十五回合红变着,只能走兵四平三才不违规,否则,红退炮或退相都是犯规!因此,只能走兵四平三。再有,红是长杀,…是否你的规则规定,红可以一个犯规来顶替另一个犯规就可以变到和棋的着法上去呢?!
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