《征西》大退车的一个变化

dave7788 · 发表于 2017-12-23 19:12:28

红车下底，以前论坛讨论的结果是黑胜。新发现红有炮四平五的妙招，可和。
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-12-24 09:28:23

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-12-24 15:40 编辑

這樣看看
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10]|| 這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]大陸規則黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30] 黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment30][DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]40204121[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2017-12-24 19:18:33

聨吟客发表于 2017-12-24 09:28
這樣看看

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[DhtmlXQ_comment10]|| 這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]大陸規則黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_30] 黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-12-24 23:13:11

炮四平六厲害!!!

和局

dave7788 · 发表于 2019-1-8 20:23:14

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2019-1-9 02:47:38

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]|| 這樣如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]大陸規則黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_30] 黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8]這樣可保留底卒||再設法調整||如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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dave7788 · 发表于 2019-1-9 11:02:21

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chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-1-9 12:33:34

大征西有很多局面有待拆解。我发一下我最感困惑的局面。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]王首成至此局面认为是黑胜。在多种著作中有较大篇幅文字介绍。||||小结[FEN=4c4/9/4k4/9/9/9/6r2/4BR3/5K3/3p3C1 b - - 17 27]（相关局面）[/FEN]：小退车局面时，红如帅四平五再炮三进九，黑车8平2后，红帅五平四或平六皆要输棋。即炮三进九是败着。再往上推一步，即上一着帅四平五是败着。只有帅四平五改为炮三进一还可以顽强抵抗一阵。|| 对小退车红方炮三进一固守，将在“我对小退车的另一路变化”专题中继续探讨。 ||||杨注：如改走炮三进一也可和，但变化繁复。（其未列出着法）[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]这个局面重点拆解。||||红炮进底，为以后进车邀兑事逼迫黑炮离开要道作准备，可削弱黑方后院强大的潜在火力，也是本局谋和的好棋！在“三路炮”内虽曾多次采用这个办法谋和，但结果无济于事，而在“二路炮”内却能弈成和棋，实在出人意料。（杨注）|||| 弈聪注：在王首成的著作中，至此也有描述，说红炮进底，再企图进车底逼迫黑炮无法作镇将后而离开中路的这种战术在三路炮中没有成功，在二路炮中也无法成和。下着车8平2后，红应以帅四平五或六路红均负（当红进车底邀兑时，杨明忠走和是走黑中炮打相，王首成走黑将退1，杨主着下着是走车8平7）|| 又说此着走炮三进一不足取，再往上追根到上一回合帅四平五不足取。|| 上一回合也有相关描述。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]黑再退回守呢？||||比上一回合红直接走炮三进一，黑车8平2相比，此时红已相当于亏了一步棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]红平帅六路局[FEN=4c4/9/4k4/9/9/9/6r2/4BR3/5K3/3p3C1 b - - 17 27]（相关局面）[/FEN]：[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]取胜的关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]下同主变，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]得相，黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_86]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_88]黑速胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_90]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_90]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_88]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]最后,形成黑车炮必胜红中路单车高帅的局面.[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_68]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_38]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_30][FEN=4c1C2/5R3/4k4/9/9/9/9/4BK3/7r1/4p4 w - - 32 34]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_5]红平帅四路局[FEN=4c4/9/4k4/9/9/9/6r2/4BR3/5K3/3p3C1 b - - 17 27]（相关局面）[/FEN]：[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]王首成对征西局的新解[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_15]红是一将一捉吗？进车是捉兼兑炮的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_17]第一种着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_17]第二种着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_17]第三种着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_17]第四种着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_17]第五种着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_36]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]黑胜。类同本变36回合车四退四时第五种着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_18]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_46]黑方可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_8]旧谱着法，成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_21]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_4]黑方先平车捉炮,使红炮不在三路,防止平车2 路后红方有炮三退八的防卸手段,从而使红方子力不协调,增加红方谋和难度.||||杨注：如改走1、卒6平7或车8平5，则车四进七，可以成和；2、将5平4或将5退1，则帅五平四，可以成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_18]最新研究结果,小退车变例中,对付红方的炮三进九,黑有胜机:[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_3]待拆[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_5]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_3]王首成认为该着不可取，其未列出具体着法。在炮三进九他认为是黑胜的条件下说该着不可取有点困惑。||||个人认为只有在红走其它着可和的情况下说该着不可取且不列出着法才正常。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_19]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_19]
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