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[DhtmlXQ_title]第05局 三气周瑜（该局待拆）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论，在90年代后就成了黑胜了。包括朱鹤洲再版的。||论坛中关于该局的地址：||http://www.hychess.com/forum.php ... &extra=page%3D1||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 13 17]本人认为可和着法红变招处[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/5P3/9/9/4c1b2/6B2/4C4/9/4p4/3K5 b - - 0 28]本人认为可和着法2[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||发现黑胜着法主要为：黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处，一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了，另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线，控制住了红帅的活动，之后黑炮移到红方左侧成杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]兼攻带守的着法。一面闪开炮路，伏沉底炮杀；一面防黑卒平3（弃卒吸引），相五退七，車6平4的杀着或炮2进9后車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]先手除去红方底兵，暗伏車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]升車保象，一着两用，暗伏車1平4的杀着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]弃車引象，解除黑車1平4的杀着威胁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]以下原谱列出两局变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]第二局||||||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局，黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||徐家亮，苏德龙87年百局版本为原谱黑胜着法，之后再版的也未更改。||||[FEN=5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1（另一胜法为原谱胜法）[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN]||||杨明忠版为黑胜为原谱着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]原谱着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]弈聪注：这步进兵感觉有问题，不进兵更利于防守，多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]弈聪注：下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六，炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了，但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好，以后万一黑卒走下来，可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]和？||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]？刊注着法，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]？可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]红一将一杀，必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_45]下同主变。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]弈聪注：原谱着法，黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车，劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路，致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_27]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]亦和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_43]和。竹谱变九。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_24]新变！[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_57]不变作和！[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_50]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_41]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_42]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_47]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_51]这样黑不利！[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_41]！？[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_42]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_19]第一局 官和？||||原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在这步炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局，和[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN=4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]此处黑方亦可改走車1进2||||弈聪注：车1进2？很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_23]古谱着法，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_26]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局，而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着，从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]如黑方改走炮5退2？则兵四进一！[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_47]此时红方应走兵六平五，亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_60]大错！应改炮8平3催杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_27][FEN=4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]更佳，已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_10]红无杀，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_12]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_8]
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