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[江湖局研究] 三氣周瑜

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发表于 2018-10-3 20:44:45 | 显示全部楼层

..这样走好像是和局

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化,最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛,还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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发表于 2018-10-3 20:51:28 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2018-10-3 21:20 编辑

发贴后发现楼上也想到了这路变化,编辑一下。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化,最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛,还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?||||拆解时参考用:||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和,第21回合黑炮6平9,如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法?[/FEN],[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中,后经 yjr123指出,红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象,应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]另一红兵也被灭,[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]和还是黑负?黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]直接将拆解还是不行,可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着,还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架,黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路,除此飞上或飞下无多大关系,防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]黑象位置不同。||||黑炮先打红相可行吗?[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_28]下会走成相同局面,暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_28]
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发表于 2018-10-3 20:59:07 | 显示全部楼层
邢春波 发表于 2018-10-3 20:44
..这样走好像是和局

出现大漏

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化,最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛,还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment59]
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发表于 2018-10-3 21:07:34 | 显示全部楼层
和各位拆解到一路中去了,
发表于 2018-10-3 21:10:17 | 显示全部楼层

修正一个结论

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化,最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛,还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?||||拆解时参考用:||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和,第21回合黑炮6平9,如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法?[/FEN],[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象,应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]另一红兵也被灭,[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_57]和还是黑负?黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_45]直接将拆解还是不行,可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着,还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架,黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路,防止黑卒走中象位。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]
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发表于 2018-10-3 21:18:19 | 显示全部楼层

17回合黑进象,这个变化是黒胜
发表于 2018-10-3 21:25:22 | 显示全部楼层

28回合,黑应先进象

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化,最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛,还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_64]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment70]||||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment70]
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发表于 2018-10-3 21:31:48 | 显示全部楼层
感觉变化越来越多了。
发表于 2018-10-3 21:32:09 | 显示全部楼层

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化,最后会发一个汇总贴。||||暂发论坛,还未详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
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发表于 2018-10-3 21:34:33 | 显示全部楼层
这样和棋

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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||黑飞高象[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
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发表于 2018-10-3 21:37:25 | 显示全部楼层
邢春波 发表于 2018-10-3 21:18
17回合黑进象,这个变化是黒胜

没有看懂
发表于 2018-10-3 21:47:42 | 显示全部楼层
查看了一下我最初的拆解原谱,发现黑是有退象和进象两种着法。是根据多种诠注本录入的。

开始未去注意,经论友提醒,好象是有点区别。
发表于 2018-10-3 21:53:41 | 显示全部楼层
第16回合红方炮一平五时是退象,兵五进一时是进象。
发表于 2018-10-3 21:56:08 | 显示全部楼层

第22回合兵三进一应是黑胜,可以走炮七平五和棋。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||黑飞高象[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
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发表于 2018-10-3 22:14:20 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2018-10-3 21:56
第22回合兵三进一应是黑胜,可以走炮七平五和棋。

21回合红改走炮五平八

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[DhtmlXQ_comment34]||黑飞高象[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]||||||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
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发表于 2018-10-3 22:17:44 | 显示全部楼层
第17回合象1进3有相同局面,我最早发的贴子中应该有。原先是作为黑胜的。因我原先的拆解那路变化最后发现还是黑胜后。想有什么办法把炮移到九二位最佳防守位,才想到了炮五退二再平移的变化。在相同局面中这路变化其实也未拆解。
发表于 2018-10-3 22:31:41 | 显示全部楼层
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化,最后会发一个汇总贴。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架,黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路,除此飞上或飞下无多大关系,防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。||||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN]||||||该局面有相同局面,开始未加注意。原先根据各诠注本录入作为黑胜。根据论友提醒,可能略有不同。后面走炮五退二再平炮五平九的是我后来想到了,在相同局面中还未有。先复制各诠注本的着法过来拆解参考。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]黑象位置不同。||||黑炮先打红相可行吗?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]?黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]!||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]下同主变。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下再复制。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]!||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?||||拆解时参考用:||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和,第21回合黑炮6平9,如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五?[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法?[/FEN],[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中,后经 yjr123指出,红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象,应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]另一红兵也被灭,[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]和还是黑负?黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行,可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着,还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]下会走成相同局面,暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]
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发表于 2018-10-3 22:34:14 | 显示全部楼层

根据陈先生的着法走下去的没有研究前面
发表于 2018-10-3 23:07:59 | 显示全部楼层
象1进3和象1退3最后面步以同样的招法可行吗?
发表于 2018-10-4 20:55:26 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2018-10-5 19:18 编辑

特意汇总了一下,感觉应该差不多了。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论,之后出版的诠注本陆续诠正为黑胜了。查我现有的资料应该是朱鹤洲的江湖排局集成最先诠为黑胜的。我当时计划拆解江湖四大排局名著时录到该局时,感觉黑胜中的着法有问题,曾在华工网中发贴求助,但反应不多,便没有继续拆解下去。后又发现竹香斋中的寒松卧壑有问题,在华工网中发贴后提及该局,由聊吟客发贴进行讨论,经yjr123提出一些看法,使我又继续拆解下去,现汇总各位论友的观点,把该局暂诠正为和局。也许有新的黑胜招法未发现。||||该局很多地方出现炮一平五的招法,原先以为是劣着,直接注明黑胜了,后发现可通过中炮退至帅前再平到左侧防止黑卒进到二路线,出现该招的地方有些可能还适用,特意汇总了一下。||||诠正着法:||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]诠正着法分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]诠正和棋着法2[/FEN]||||||汇总整理时发现一些变化待拆解:||[FEN=3k5/9/b2P5/3c5/5P3/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K4 b - - 21 21]待拆解[/FEN]||||||古谱和各诠注本部分着法如下:||[FEN=2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局,和[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局,黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]心谱分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱认为黑胜着法/心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||||发现黑胜着法主要为:黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处,一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了,另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线,之后一卒定心,炮卒成杀。基于以上两点,拆解时,有机会就先飞相,另想有什么办法能使红炮走到二路线左铡防止黑卒进到二路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN=4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局,黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||[FEN=5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1(另一胜法为原谱胜法)[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]以下有两种诠正着法(炮8退1和法为古谱着法,拆解着法差不多)[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||||||古谱及各诠注本着法如下:||||[FEN=2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]竹谱1本和。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周14年版心谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||||陈广仁的街头象棋残局中有一则修改局(原谱也认为黑胜),把红三兵前移一步。此时应由黑方先走,则该路变化为黑胜(修改局此时红炮应在一0位,无上一回合的交换,若回到这一位置,相当于下步还是黑走)||||[FEN=4k3C/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p8/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]附陈广仁三气周下瑜修改局着法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]蒋朱裘版本下回合走炮一平五,和。||||14、15回合黑走子顺序可调换一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法?[/FEN],[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中,后经 yjr123指出,红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象,应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]另一红兵也被灭,[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]和还是黑负?黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]直接将拆解还是不行,可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着,还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]诠正着法,黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_34]亦和,变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外,其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_35]诠正着法,同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3(第17回合)的一些变化。转自论坛,未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法,未注意象1退3的变化,后来发现象1退3也有相同局面,是根据各诠注本录入的,作为黑胜,两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]诠正着法,与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_45]黑胜,下见相同局面。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment32_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_35]?劣,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment33_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]弈聪注:这步进兵感觉有问题,不进兵更利于防守,多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_32]弈聪注:下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六,炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了,但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好,以后万一黑卒走下来,可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法,和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。||||最先拆解的一路变化,可最后发现黑还是可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]?可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步,利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好,可拦黑炮,但黑炮可回打红兵,拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_33]最初拆解时以为是劣着,后经诠正可成和局。||||该着应该是90年代左右出版的诠注本中的诠正着法,原谱走炮一平六成黑胜。诠正着法后以下通过黑主动兑子成和。10年以后(00年以后再版的还是以和棋为主,朱鹤洲中的江湖排局集成应该是最先诠为黑胜的)黑发现可以把炮移到红方左侧成杀。这应该是该局现被认定为黑胜的原因。||||黑炮在红方底线尽量不要去平中,在一二路线守住黑方的高卒就行,有退炮和拦黑炮的机会。||||该着出现的时机也可能在其它回合, 其原理基本上差不多。||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_34]||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法。和。见相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_45]下同主变。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_35]?劣,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment62_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_46]!黑胜。||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_33]弈聪注:原谱着法,黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车,劣着,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞,炮还在中路,致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了,后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_31]心谱原谱着法。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment76_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]和。||||[FEN=2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_35]诠正着法,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_37][FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]和。见相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_46]诠正着法,黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]败着。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_58]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_52]心谱第4变黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_54]4、6路同时叫杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]劣。黑胜。||||[FEN=9/3k1P3/9/3C5/2b6/9/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 b - - 12 26]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/5P3/b8/9/9/6B2/4p4/8C/5p3/3K5 b - - 4 22]竹谱变九,和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_43]竹谱变九,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_28]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_26]红胜。||||[FEN=5k3/4P4/b4P3/9/9/9/3p1c3/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 21]竹谱变八,红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/9/5P3/9/2p1C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 11 16]竹谱变十一,红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN=2b2k3/4P4/9/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 15 18]竹谱变十二,红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment101_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_41]竹谱变八,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。||||注解合并:||竹谱变十一,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。||||注解合并:||竹谱变十二,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_25]黑胜。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b4c3/9/6P2/9/3p5/4B4/5C3/4K4 b - - 1 19]杨明忠03年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_26]让红多走一步炮五进三即成相似局面。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/4C4/9/6P2/p8/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_27]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_31][FEN=4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面,黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_31]红再回到一二路线,已白白损失步数。||||黑为了防止红兵往中间走,黑宫心卒即使红炮不打,也会移到6路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_35]红相也飞不了。不动兵只能动炮走闲着。后兵能移到中间就好了。往上推应该是第13步炮一平五损失步数了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_39]拦炮就进卒,二头顾不了。走其它闲着黑炮也平中将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_25]附录:录成陈广仁的修改局局势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_28]陈广仁把三气周瑜的红后兵前移一步,形成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_31]进后兵挡中路来不及。只能平中炮。这是与三气周瑜原局的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_36]黑下步即杀,飞相来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_24][FEN=2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]暂诠为和棋主变着法。[/FEN]||||||[FEN=9/4P4/3k5/4c4/2b6/2B6/9/9/3Cp4/5K3 w - - 0 33]心谱1本佯和局。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment120_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_25]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment120_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_27]诠正着法,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_35]红还是打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_38]黑不进卒的话只能退炮或走闲。||||进卒后黑只能从红两侧进攻取胜。红炮可长拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_64]这样黑反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_77]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]黑胜?||整理时发现第21回合红方可变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]![/DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_44]该招由yjr123提出。||||以下经拆解就为黑胜。红只能前面变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_74]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_57]不变作和![/DhtmlXQ_comment127_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_50]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_51]![/DhtmlXQ_comment128_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_41]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_42]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_47]正![/DhtmlXQ_comment131_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_51]这样黑不利![/DhtmlXQ_comment131_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]!?[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]![/DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_53]双方不变,纷和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_66]心谱1本佯和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_51]心谱2变黑变亦佯和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_33]先帅平中再想打法赶卒,黑进卒吃红相还是快了一步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_40]黑已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_51]红无子可动。只能动该兵,其它三子没法动。平三也一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_28]红可和。||||还不如第12回合直接炮8进3。此时红炮在黑方卒线的位置要好于在红方兵线的位置。相当于在相似局面中让红方多走了一步。||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 6 13]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment140_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_42]||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 20 20]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment140_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_43]可炮四平三,见相似局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_53]不让黑卒占心,黑要杀只能运炮到红方左侧,这样红胜机会反而大一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_30]黑若再退炮白走了。不走这步,只能平卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_43]走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_51]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_89]即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_29]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_40][FEN=9/4k4/b4P3/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 22 21]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment143_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_41]可相三退一复杂一点,红方有优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_31]可进后兵再平四打卒。帅居中不急。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_33]这步是真正的败着。||||再平兵打卒,与这步先进后兵再平四打卒步数一样。但红炮在卒线再飞相至三路多了一个炮平三打黑7路卒的棋。(平前兵打卒以后是前兵平五挡将才能飞相,被黑象一飞只能又平移,红没机会飞相,走后兵可后兵平五再飞相用相当炮架守三路线)||||[FEN=4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面,黑可胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment145_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_34]先复制过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_34]上步走炮四进二时。黑方应以炮8退9取胜。||||现黑方应以同样的招法看一下区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]上步炮四进二时,这步平四刚好打黑卒,黑只能卒6平7。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_39]与17回合炮四进二时的区别。||||下步黑应以卒3进1时碰到红一将一杀了,待拆解。||这样的话第16回合红只能变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_49]红好象是一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_40]除此其它也没好招。改走其它,可能只是走子顺序不同而已。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_40]和?下未折解略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_24][FEN=2bk5/4P4/5P3/9/9/9/9/9/3c5/4K4 b - - 0 29]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment157_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_57]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_54]按古时捉一不捉二,二捉一还捉的惯例,双方不变可作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_31]最后殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_63]按二打一还打作和。现棋规应由黑方变招。变红兵六进一立负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_22][FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/2B6/6P2/7c1/p3p3C/3K5 b - - 7 14]竹谱变七,红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment160_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。||||注解合并:||竹谱变七,红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_21][FEN=5k3/9/b3P4/6P2/4C4/9/9/9/4p4/3K1p1c1 w - - 4 19]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜着法[/FEN]||||以下着法不细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_31]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_33]至此红相被白吃了。前面二回合中红兵三进一可不急走。先动相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_38]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_19]原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN=9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局,和[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN=4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment163_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_20]此处黑方亦可改走车1进2||||弈聪注:车1进2?很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_23]古谱着法,黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_26]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局,而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着,从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_46]如黑方改走炮5退2?则兵四进一![/DhtmlXQ_comment169_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_47]此时红方应走兵六平五,亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]大错!应改炮8平3催杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment180_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment180_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment188_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment188_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_27][FEN=4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment189_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_33]更佳,已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment191_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment191_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment192_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment192_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment193_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment193_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment194_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment194_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment196_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment197_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment197_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment198_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment198_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment199_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment199_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment200_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment200_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment201_10]红无杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment201_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment202_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment202_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment203_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment205_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment205_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment206_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment206_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment207_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment207_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment208_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment208_8]
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应以上象为主变
汇总的这个变化末尾有点乱

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论,之后出版的诠注本陆续诠正为黑胜了。查我现有的资料应该是朱鹤洲的江湖排局集成最先诠为黑胜的。我当时计划拆解江湖四大排局名著时录到该局时,感觉黑胜中的着法有问题,曾在华工网中发贴求助,但反应不多,便没有继续拆解下去。后又发现竹香斋中的寒松卧壑有问题,在华工网中发贴后提及该局,由聊吟客发贴进行讨论,经yjr123提出一些看法,使我又继续拆解下去,现汇总各位论友的观点,把该局暂诠正为和局。也许有新的黑胜招法未发现。||||该局很多地方出现炮一平五的招法,原先以为是劣着,直接注明黑胜了,后发现可通过中炮退至帅前再平到左侧防止黑卒进到二路线,出现该招的地方有些可能还适用,特意汇总了一下。||||诠正着法:||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]诠正着法分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]诠正和棋着法2[/FEN]||||||汇总整理时发现一些变化待拆解:||[FEN\u003D3k5/9/b2P5/3c5/5P3/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K4 b - - 21 21]待拆解[/FEN]||||||古谱和各诠注本部分着法如下:||[FEN\u003D2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局,和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局,黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]心谱分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱认为黑胜着法/心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||||发现黑胜着法主要为:黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处,一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了,另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线,之后一卒定心,炮卒成杀。基于以上两点,拆解时,有机会就先飞相,另想有什么办法能使红炮走到二路线左铡防止黑卒进到二路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局,黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1(另一胜法为原谱胜法)[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]以下有两种诠正着法(炮8退1和法为古谱着法,拆解着法差不多)[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||||||古谱及各诠注本着法如下:||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]竹谱1本和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周14年版心谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||||陈广仁的街头象棋残局中有一则修改局(原谱也认为黑胜),把红三兵前移一步。此时应由黑方先走,则该路变化为黑胜(修改局此时红炮应在一0位,无上一回合的交换,若回到这一位置,相当于下步还是黑走)||||[FEN\u003D4k3C/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p8/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]附陈广仁三气周下瑜修改局着法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]蒋朱裘版本下回合走炮一平五,和。||||14、15回合黑走子顺序可调换一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_39]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_41]和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法?[/FEN],[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中,后经 yjr123指出,红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象,应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]另一红兵也被灭,[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]和还是黑负?黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]直接将拆解还是不行,可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着,还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]诠正着法,黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]亦和,变化与象1退3差不多。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]诠正着法,同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3(第17回合)的一些变化。转自论坛,未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法,未注意象1退3的变化,后来发现象1退3也有相同局面,是根据各诠注本录入的,作为黑胜,两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]诠正着法,与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_45]黑胜,下见相同局面。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment32_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_35]?劣,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment33_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]弈聪注:这步进兵感觉有问题,不进兵更利于防守,多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_32]弈聪注:下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六,炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了,但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好,以后万一黑卒走下来,可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法,和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment43_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。||||最先拆解的一路变化,可最后发现黑还是可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]?可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步,利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好,可拦黑炮,但黑炮可回打红兵,拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_33]最初拆解时以为是劣着,后经诠正可成和局。||||该着应该是90年代左右出版的诠注本中的诠正着法,原谱走炮一平六成黑胜。诠正着法后以下通过黑主动兑子成和。10年以后(00年以后再版的还是以和棋为主,朱鹤洲中的江湖排局集成应该是最先诠为黑胜的)黑发现可以把炮移到红方左侧成杀。这应该是该局现被认定为黑胜的原因。||||黑炮在红方底线尽量不要去平中,在一二路线守住黑方的高卒就行,有退炮和拦黑炮的机会。||||该着出现的时机也可能在其它回合, 其原理基本上差不多。||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_34]||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法。和。见相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment60_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_35]?劣,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment62_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_46]!黑胜。||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_33]弈聪注:原谱着法,黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车,劣着,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞,炮还在中路,致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了,后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_31]心谱原谱着法。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment76_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]和。||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_35]诠正着法,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_37][FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]和。见相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_46]诠正着法,黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]败着。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment81_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_58]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_52]心谱第4变黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_54]4、6路同时叫杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]劣。黑胜。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/3C5/2b6/9/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 b - - 12 26]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/b8/9/9/6B2/4p4/8C/5p3/3K5 b - - 4 22]竹谱变九,和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_43]竹谱变九,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_28]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_26]红胜。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/4P4/b4P3/9/9/9/3p1c3/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 21]竹谱变八,红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/9/5P3/9/2p1C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 11 16]竹谱变十一,红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/4P4/9/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 15 18]竹谱变十二,红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment101_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_41]竹谱变八,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。||||注解合并:||竹谱变十一,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。||||注解合并:||竹谱变十二,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_25]黑胜。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b4c3/9/6P2/9/3p5/4B4/5C3/4K4 b - - 1 19]杨明忠03年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_26]让红多走一步炮五进三即成相似局面。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/4C4/9/6P2/p8/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_27]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_31][FEN\u003D4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面,黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment106_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_31]红再回到一二路线,已白白损失步数。||||黑为了防止红兵往中间走,黑宫心卒即使红炮不打,也会移到6路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_35]红相也飞不了。不动兵只能动炮走闲着。后兵能移到中间就好了。往上推应该是第13步炮一平五损失步数了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_39]拦炮就进卒,二头顾不了。走其它闲着黑炮也平中将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_25]附录:录成陈广仁的修改局局势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_28]陈广仁把三气周瑜的红后兵前移一步,形成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_31]进后兵挡中路来不及。只能平中炮。这是与三气周瑜原局的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_36]黑下步即杀,飞相来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_24][FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]暂诠为和棋主变着法。[/FEN]||||||[FEN\u003D9/4P4/3k5/4c4/2b6/2B6/9/9/3Cp4/5K3 w - - 0 33]心谱1本佯和局。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment120_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_25]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment120_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_27]诠正着法,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_35]红还是打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_38]黑不进卒的话只能退炮或走闲。||||进卒后黑只能从红两侧进攻取胜。红炮可长拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_64]这样黑反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_77]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]黑胜?||整理时发现第21回合红方可变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]![/DhtmlXQ_comment123_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_44]该招由yjr123提出。||||以下经拆解就为黑胜。红只能前面变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_74]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_57]不变作和![/DhtmlXQ_comment127_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_50]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_51]![/DhtmlXQ_comment128_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_41]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_42]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_47]正![/DhtmlXQ_comment131_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_51]这样黑不利![/DhtmlXQ_comment131_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]!?[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]![/DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_53]双方不变,纷和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_66]心谱1本佯和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_51]心谱2变黑变亦佯和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_33]先帅平中再想打法赶卒,黑进卒吃红相还是快了一步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_40]黑已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_51]红无子可动。只能动该兵,其它三子没法动。平三也一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_28]红可和。||||还不如第12回合直接炮8进3。此时红炮在黑方卒线的位置要好于在红方兵线的位置。相当于在相似局面中让红方多走了一步。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 6 13]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment140_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_42]||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 20 20]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment140_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_43]可炮四平三,见相似局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_53]不让黑卒占心,黑要杀只能运炮到红方左侧,这样红胜机会反而大一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_30]黑若再退炮白走了。不走这步,只能平卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_43]走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_51]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_89]即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_29]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_40][FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 22 21]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment143_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_41]可相三退一复杂一点,红方有优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_31]可进后兵再平四打卒。帅居中不急。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_33]这步是真正的败着。||||再平兵打卒,与这步先进后兵再平四打卒步数一样。但红炮在卒线再飞相至三路多了一个炮平三打黑7路卒的棋。(平前兵打卒以后是前兵平五挡将才能飞相,被黑象一飞只能又平移,红没机会飞相,走后兵可后兵平五再飞相用相当炮架守三路线)||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面,黑可胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment145_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_34]先复制过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_34]上步走炮四进二时。黑方应以炮8退9取胜。||||现黑方应以同样的招法看一下区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]上步炮四进二时,这步平四刚好打黑卒,黑只能卒6平7。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_39]与17回合炮四进二时的区别。||||下步黑应以卒3进1时碰到红一将一杀了,待拆解。||这样的话第16回合红只能变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment152_49]红好象是一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment152_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_40]除此其它也没好招。改走其它,可能只是走子顺序不同而已。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_40]和?下未折解略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_24][FEN\u003D2bk5/4P4/5P3/9/9/9/9/9/3c5/4K4 b - - 0 29]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment157_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_57]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_54]按古时捉一不捉二,二捉一还捉的惯例,双方不变可作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_31]最后殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_63]按二打一还打作和。现棋规应由黑方变招。变红兵六进一立负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_22][FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/2B6/6P2/7c1/p3p3C/3K5 b - - 7 14]竹谱变七,红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment160_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。||||注解合并:||竹谱变七,红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_21][FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/6P2/4C4/9/9/9/4p4/3K1p1c1 w - - 4 19]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜着法[/FEN]||||以下着法不细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_31]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_33]至此红相被白吃了。前面二回合中红兵三进一可不急走。先动相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_38]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_19]原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局,和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment163_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_20]此处黑方亦可改走车1进2||||弈聪注:车1进2?很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_23]古谱着法,黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_26]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局,而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着,从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_46]如黑方改走炮5退2?则兵四进一![/DhtmlXQ_comment169_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_47]此时红方应走兵六平五,亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]大错!应改炮8平3催杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment180_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment180_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment183_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment183_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment188_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment188_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_27][FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment189_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_33]更佳,已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment191_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment191_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment192_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment192_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment193_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment193_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment194_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment194_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment196_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment197_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment197_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment198_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment198_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment199_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment199_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment200_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment200_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment201_10]红无杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment201_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment202_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment202_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment203_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment205_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment205_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment206_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment206_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment207_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment207_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment208_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment208_8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局排局界黑胜好象已是定论。在87年版的朱蒋裘版本中为和棋结论,之后出版的诠注本陆续诠正为黑胜了。查我现有的资料应该是朱鹤洲的江湖排局集成最先诠为黑胜的。我当时计划拆解江湖四大排局名著时录到该局时,感觉黑胜中的着法有问题,曾在华工网中发贴求助,但反应不多,便没有继续拆解下去。后又发现竹香斋中的寒松卧壑有问题,在华工网中发贴后提及该局,由聊吟客发贴进行讨论,经yjr123提出一些看法,使我又继续拆解下去,现汇总各位论友的观点,把该局暂诠正为和局。也许有新的黑胜招法未发现。||||该局很多地方出现炮一平五的招法,原先以为是劣着,直接注明黑胜了,后发现可通过中炮退至帅前再平到左侧防止黑卒进到二路线,出现该招的地方有些可能还适用,特意汇总了一下。||||诠正着法:||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]诠正着法分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]诠正和棋着法2[/FEN]||||||汇总整理时发现一些变化待拆解:||[FEN\u003D3k5/9/b2P5/3c5/5P3/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K4 b - - 21 21]待拆解[/FEN]||||||古谱和各诠注本部分着法如下:||[FEN\u003D2b1k3C/9/r4RP2/9/9/9/p5P2/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 0 9]百局变招分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局,和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局,黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周版本黑胜主变[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p6cC/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 12]心谱分支处[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱认为黑胜着法/心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||||发现黑胜着法主要为:黑卒能有机会走到红帅九宫处,一种胜法是黑卒走到红士角位置时红相来不及飞直接被黑卒吃掉了,另一种是黑卒走到红方二路线,之后一卒定心,炮卒成杀。基于以上两点,拆解时,有机会就先飞相,另想有什么办法能使红炮走到二路线左铡防止黑卒进到二路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]||该局是否是黑胜和和棋的结论主要看这路变化。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/4PP3/3C5/2b6/9/9/4p4/5p3/4K2c1 w - - 0 21]百局第2局,黑胜[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/9/2b6/3C5/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 w - - 7 23]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变和棋着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/9/4C1P2/9/9/9/4pp3/3K3c1 w - - 2 18]董志新88年百局版本认为该变黑胜着法1(另一胜法为原谱胜法)[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/2P6/9/2b6/3C5/9/4B4/4p4/1c1p1K3 w - - 44 32]朱鹤洲99年版的江湖排局集成中诠为黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]以下有两种诠正着法(炮8退1和法为古谱着法,拆解着法差不多)[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]诠正和棋着法1[/FEN]||||||||古谱及各诠注本着法如下:||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/9/4P4/9/2P6/9/9/4B4/3c1p3/2p1K4 w - - 2 29]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]竹谱1本和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/3P1P3/9/9/2b6/9/3C5/4B4/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 1 31]白周14年版心谱黑胜着法。[/FEN]||||||陈广仁的街头象棋残局中有一则修改局(原谱也认为黑胜),把红三兵前移一步。此时应由黑方先走,则该路变化为黑胜(修改局此时红炮应在一0位,无上一回合的交换,若回到这一位置,相当于下步还是黑走)||||[FEN\u003D4k3C/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p8/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]附陈广仁三气周下瑜修改局着法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]蒋朱裘版本下回合走炮一平五,和。||||14、15回合黑走子顺序可调换一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法?[/FEN],[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]黑走此着是否有棋.[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74]和局.[/DhtmlXQ_comment74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中,后经 yjr123指出,红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象,应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_61]另一红兵也被灭,[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]和还是黑负?黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_45]直接将拆解还是不行,可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着,还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]诠正着法,黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]亦和,变化与象1退3差不多。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_35]诠正着法,同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3(第17回合)的一些变化。转自论坛,未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法,未注意象1退3的变化,后来发现象1退3也有相同局面,是根据各诠注本录入的,作为黑胜,两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]诠正着法,与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment32_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_45]黑胜,下见相同局面。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment33_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_35]?劣,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment34_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_31]弈聪注:这步进兵感觉有问题,不进兵更利于防守,多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_32]弈聪注:下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六,炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了,但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好,以后万一黑卒走下来,可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment44_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法,和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment44_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。||||最先拆解的一路变化,可最后发现黑还是可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_37]?可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步,利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好,可拦黑炮,但黑炮可回打红兵,拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_33]最初拆解时以为是劣着,后经诠正可成和局。||||该着应该是90年代左右出版的诠注本中的诠正着法,原谱走炮一平六成黑胜。诠正着法后以下通过黑主动兑子成和。10年以后(00年以后再版的还是以和棋为主,朱鹤洲中的江湖排局集成应该是最先诠为黑胜的)黑发现可以把炮移到红方左侧成杀。这应该是该局现被认定为黑胜的原因。||||黑炮在红方底线尽量不要去平中,在一二路线守住黑方的高卒就行,有退炮和拦黑炮的机会。||||该着出现的时机也可能在其它回合, 其原理基本上差不多。||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法。和。见相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment61_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment62_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_35]?劣,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment63_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_46]!黑胜。||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]弈聪注:原谱着法,黑胜。这步棋看不出它的作用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_42]百局第2局红车杀黑车,劣着,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞,炮还在中路,致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了,后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]心谱原谱着法。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_31]和。||||[FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P2c/9/3P5/9/9/9/4B4/4K4/9 b - - 6 28]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment78_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]诠正着法,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_37][FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]和。见相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment78_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_35]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_46]诠正着法,黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_31]败着。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p1C5/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment82_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_58]心谱第5变红变亦黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_52]心谱第4变黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_54]4、6路同时叫杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_27]劣。黑胜。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k1P3/9/3C5/2b6/9/3p5/4B4/3K1p3/9 b - - 12 26]蒋朱裘90年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/b8/9/9/6B2/4p4/8C/5p3/3K5 b - - 4 22]竹谱变九,和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_31]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_46]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_34]败着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_37]错失胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_43]竹谱变九,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_28]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_26]红胜。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/4P4/b4P3/9/9/9/3p1c3/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 3 21]竹谱变八,红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/9/5P3/9/2p1C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 11 16]竹谱变十一,红胜。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/4P4/9/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 15 18]竹谱变十二,红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment102_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_27]以下黑有三种应着均难逃败北下場。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_41]红胜。竹谱变八。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_51]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_41]竹谱变八,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_31]红胜。竹谱变十一。||||注解合并:||竹谱变十一,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_35]红胜定。竹谱变十二。||||注解合并:||竹谱变十二,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_25]黑胜。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b4c3/9/6P2/9/3p5/4B4/5C3/4K4 b - - 1 19]杨明忠03年版心谱刊注着法,和。[/FEN]||||炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment107_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_26]让红多走一步炮五进三即成相似局面。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/4C4/9/6P2/p8/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 8 14]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment107_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_27]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_31][FEN\u003D4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面,黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment107_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment108_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment108_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment112_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_31]红再回到一二路线,已白白损失步数。||||黑为了防止红兵往中间走,黑宫心卒即使红炮不打,也会移到6路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_35]红相也飞不了。不动兵只能动炮走闲着。后兵能移到中间就好了。往上推应该是第13步炮一平五损失步数了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_39]拦炮就进卒,二头顾不了。走其它闲着黑炮也平中将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_25]附录:录成陈广仁的修改局局势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_28]陈广仁把三气周瑜的红后兵前移一步,形成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment116_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment118_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment118_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_31]进后兵挡中路来不及。只能平中炮。这是与三气周瑜原局的区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_36]黑下步即杀,飞相来不及。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_24][FEN\u003D2b1k4/5P3/9/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/4K1p2/9 w - - 8 26]暂诠为和棋主变着法。[/FEN]||||||[FEN\u003D9/4P4/3k5/4c4/2b6/2B6/9/9/3Cp4/5K3 w - - 0 33]心谱1本佯和局。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment121_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_25]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下:||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment121_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_27]诠正着法,和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_52]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_35]红还是打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_38]黑不进卒的话只能退炮或走闲。||||进卒后黑只能从红两侧进攻取胜。红炮可长拦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_64]这样黑反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_77]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_27]黑胜?||整理时发现第21回合红方可变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_41]![/DhtmlXQ_comment124_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_44]该招由yjr123提出。||||以下经拆解就为黑胜。红只能前面变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_74]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_51]亦可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment127_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_57]不变作和![/DhtmlXQ_comment128_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_51]![/DhtmlXQ_comment129_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_50]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment130_57]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment130_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_47]正![/DhtmlXQ_comment132_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_51]这样黑不利![/DhtmlXQ_comment132_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_41]!?[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_42]![/DhtmlXQ_comment133_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_53]双方不变,纷和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_66]心谱1本佯和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment134_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment134_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment135_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment135_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_51]心谱2变黑变亦佯和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_27]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_33]先帅平中再想打法赶卒,黑进卒吃红相还是快了一步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_40]黑已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_51]红无子可动。只能动该兵,其它三子没法动。平三也一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_28]红可和。||||还不如第12回合直接炮8进3。此时红炮在黑方卒线的位置要好于在红方兵线的位置。相当于在相似局面中让红方多走了一步。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/5p3/3K3c1 w - - 6 13]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment141_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_42]||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 20 20]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment141_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_43]可炮四平三,见相似局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_53]不让黑卒占心,黑要杀只能运炮到红方左侧,这样红胜机会反而大一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_30]黑若再退炮白走了。不走这步,只能平卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_43]走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_51]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_89]即可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_29]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_40][FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/5C3/5P3/6B2/9/3p5/6p2/5Kc2 w - - 22 21]相似局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment144_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_41]可相三退一复杂一点,红方有优势。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_31]可进后兵再平四打卒。帅居中不急。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]这步是真正的败着。||||再平兵打卒,与这步先进后兵再平四打卒步数一样。但红炮在卒线再飞相至三路多了一个炮平三打黑7路卒的棋。(平前兵打卒以后是前兵平五挡将才能飞相,被黑象一飞只能又平移,红没机会飞相,走后兵可后兵平五再飞相用相当炮架守三路线)||||[FEN\u003D4k4/5C3/b5P2/9/9/6P2/2p6/4B4/5p3/4K2c1 b - - 13 17]相同局面,黑可胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment146_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_34]先复制过来。[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_34]上步走炮四进二时。黑方应以炮8退9取胜。||||现黑方应以同样的招法看一下区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_35]上步炮四进二时,这步平四刚好打黑卒,黑只能卒6平7。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_39]与17回合炮四进二时的区别。||||下步黑应以卒3进1时碰到红一将一杀了,待拆解。||这样的话第16回合红只能变招了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment153_49]红好象是一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment153_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_40]除此其它也没好招。改走其它,可能只是走子顺序不同而已。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment154_46]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment154_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment155_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment155_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment156_40]和?下未折解略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment156_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment157_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment157_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_24][FEN\u003D2bk5/4P4/5P3/9/9/9/9/9/3c5/4K4 b - - 0 29]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment158_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment158_57]心谱第3变黑又变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment158_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment159_54]按古时捉一不捉二,二捉一还捉的惯例,双方不变可作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment159_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_31]最后殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment160_63]按二打一还打作和。现棋规应由黑方变招。变红兵六进一立负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment160_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_22][FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/2B6/6P2/7c1/p3p3C/3K5 b - - 7 14]竹谱变七,红胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment161_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment161_27]红胜定。竹谱变七。||||注解合并:||竹谱变七,红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment161_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_21][FEN\u003D5k3/9/b3P4/6P2/4C4/9/9/9/4p4/3K1p1c1 w - - 4 19]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜着法[/FEN]||||以下着法不细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_31]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_33]至此红相被白吃了。前面二回合中红兵三进一可不急走。先动相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment162_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment162_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment163_38]渊谱第3局炮不打象黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment163_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_19]原谱认为炮一平七可以弈成和局。||||该变全部诠注本都认为是黑胜。其它版本的主变着法略。基本上差不多。主要争论点在炮四平九的变化中。||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/9/9/9/9/9/9/3p1K3/1C7 b - - 1 36]百局第1局,和[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3k5/5P3/5P3/3C5/9/9/2c6/4p4/3K1p3 w - - 4 22]朱蒋裘87年版本认为该变黑胜着法[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4Ck3/4P4/9/9/9/9/9/2p6/3K1p3/9 b - - 6 31]董志新88年百局版本认为该变真和着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment164_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_20]此处黑方亦可改走车1进2||||弈聪注:车1进2?很多诠注本认为可走车1进2取胜。可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_23]古谱着法,黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment164_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment164_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment165_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment165_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment166_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment166_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_26]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment167_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment167_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment168_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment168_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_32]黑不必演成着法循环的和局,而应走卒5平6。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment169_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment169_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_30]这着进炮是本局正变的关键错着,从而失去了黑方取胜的良机。黑方应改走炮3平4。[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_46]如黑方改走炮5退2?则兵四进一![/DhtmlXQ_comment170_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment170_50]双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment170_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_47]黑有两种应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment171_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment171_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment172_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment173_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment173_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment174_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment174_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment175_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment175_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment176_55]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment176_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_47]此时红方应走兵六平五,亦可兵六进一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment177_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment177_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment178_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_60]大错!应改炮8平3催杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment179_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment180_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment180_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment181_71]百局第1局官和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment181_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_23]新着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment184_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment184_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment185_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment185_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment186_48]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment186_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_44]劣着[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment187_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment187_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment188_39]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment188_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment189_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment189_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_20]黑若车1进1同车1进2。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_27][FEN\u003D4k4/5P3/9/9/4C4/2B6/6P2/7c1/3p1p3/4K4 w - - 15 21]杨明忠版本中的黑胜着法[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment190_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment190_33]更佳,已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment190_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment191_45]和。黑平1可不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment191_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment192_39]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment192_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment193_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment193_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment194_41]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment194_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment195_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment195_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196_43]红已胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment196_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment196_71]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment196_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment197_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment197_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment198_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment198_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment199_15]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment199_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment200_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment200_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment201_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment201_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment202_10]红无杀,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment202_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment203_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment203_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment204_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment205_13]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment205_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment206_7]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment206_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment207_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment207_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment208_14]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment208_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment209_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment209_8]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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发表于 2018-10-4 22:16:42 | 显示全部楼层
是考虑过以上象为正变。中间拆解过多,重复局面很多,有点凌乱,删掉又可惜。有新变化时再考虑。暂时先这样算了。先拆解其它的局去了。
 楼主| 发表于 2018-10-5 10:53:02 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2018-10-5 11:30 编辑

51樓22回合黑方大漏
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发表于 2018-10-5 18:24:51 | 显示全部楼层
聨吟客 发表于 2018-10-5 10:53
51樓22回合黑方大漏

50楼就这样,所以我说有点乱,不是大漏是走不通
发表于 2018-10-5 19:05:05 | 显示全部楼层
是象棋桥软件的问题。变化也是从该贴中直接导出再导入到象棋桥中的,未去检查。导出再导入经常会多出一些招法。是不是修改过多的缘故。
发表于 2018-10-5 19:19:18 | 显示全部楼层
重新编辑了一下。
发表于 2018-10-5 20:46:56 | 显示全部楼层
chouzhouyu 发表于 2018-10-5 19:19
重新编辑了一下。

有些变化依然不正确,或含糊不清
发表于 2018-10-6 00:24:24 | 显示全部楼层
原先分析中还有一种思路,现发一下,仅供参考。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment39]与相似局面相比,兵五进一,象1退3(或进3)交换了一手。||||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/9/3p5/C4p3/4Kc3 b - - 21 21]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39][FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面,黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑胜。以下黑有卒4进1的杀着,红以下只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]红炮将后回原位,黑还是卒4进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]弈聪注:这步进兵感觉有问题,不进兵更利于防守,多了一个炮可在兵前打卒的机会且炮可在该线左右移动相当于多了一路活动范围。可动炮走闲着。但红若想取胜的话进兵也可以。||||再注:原先拆解时,感觉这步进兵有问题,不利于炮的移动,这步先进帅,再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]弈聪注:下步红方的应着各诠注本基本上是炮平五或平六,炮平五可以说是防止黑卒占心使红帅动不了,但可以走帅六平五替代。炮平六根本看不出它的作用。炮留在一二路线更好,以后万一黑卒走下来,可以退炮防守防止黑卒进一步下来。下步棋红炮上下动走闲觉得可以。[FEN=4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 12 16]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]||弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。||||最先拆解的一路变化,可最后发现黑还是可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]||分析中的第1种运炮至二路线的办法,第16回合先进帅,再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 11 16]1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面,黑胜。[/FEN]||||和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]?可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步,利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好,可拦黑炮,但黑炮可回打红兵,拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||注解合并:||原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN=4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。||||[FEN=2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。||||注解合并:||诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?||||注解合并:||||[FEN=4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/2B6/9/3p5/C4p3/4K1c2 b - - 19 20]相似局面。[/FEN]||||和。||||以下为拆解时的一些变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_42][FEN=2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法?[/FEN],[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中,后经 yjr123指出,红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象,应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_61]另一红兵也被灭,[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_57]和还是黑负?黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行,可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着,还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_35]?[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_46]诠正着法,黑胜。||||白周版本此时黑变招走该着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]和。竹谱一本。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_34]亦和,变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外,其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment44_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]诠正着法,同帅六平五走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_37][FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3(第17回合)的一些变化。转自论坛,未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法,未注意象1退3的变化,后来发现象1退3也有相同局面,是根据各诠注本录入的,作为黑胜,两者其实无多大区别。||可参考象1进3那路变化走和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_35]诠正着法,与相五进七只是走子顺序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_37]诠正着法。||||[FEN=5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment48_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_45]黑胜,下见相同局面。||||[FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment49_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_35]?劣,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_45][FEN=5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment50_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_46]||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_28]黑胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_37]和?形成相同局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_37]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]删去所有旁支变化,最后会发一个汇总贴。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]有不同變化否||||黑象当炮架,黑炮可打红相。红相以后会飞至七路,除此飞上或飞下无多大关系,防止黑卒走中象位。可能略有不同。现拆解另一路是否可和再拆解该路不迟。||||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN]||||||该局面有相同局面,开始未加注意。原先根据各诠注本录入作为黑胜。根据论友提醒,可能略有不同。后面走炮五退二再平炮五平九的是我后来想到了,在相同局面中还未有。先复制各诠注本的着法过来拆解参考。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]?黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]?可否平移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]之前飞相的话这步黑卒走下来后能有机会平炮打卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]此时红炮在1/2路就好了。可直接退炮打卒,往上推第17回合是否有问题?[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45][FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]!||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]红一将一杀,必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]下同主变。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/6P2/9/5P3/2b6/4C4/9/4B4/3p1p3/4K2c1 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下再复制。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]!||||蒋朱裘版本此时走卒4平5兑子(黑飞相略有不同)。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]原先是作为和局先放这里的。下面未再续走下去。||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]基于原先拆解结果黑胜想到这个局面[/FEN],目的是下步马上退炮至帅前再看机会平至八二位或九二位,防止黑方的二鬼拍门。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]诠正着法||||从这里开始细拆解。或从第14回合开始,看黑能否变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]这步若卒6平5,应该马上和。未拆解。||||早先的诠注本和法和先前拆解的和法都是黑卒换红炮,最后守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]这局面红能否走成?||这局面红能否守和?||||拆解时参考用:||||第25回合红应炮八平五仍和,第21回合黑炮6平9,如红仍然用炮走闲着则负。||||可能要在23或24回合提前炮平五\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_42][FEN\u003D2b6/3k1P3/9/3P5/9/2B6/3c5/9/5p3/3K5 w - - 4 33]暂拆解出的该路和棋主变着法?[/FEN],[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]有步黑炮平7路再退一逼兑红炮的棋。黑是否可行。可行的话又成黑胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]这步黑有否变招余地。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]目的是黑卒下步平中做杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]诠正着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]另一论友也拆解到这一路变化中,后经 yjr123指出,红还可胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]||和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]yjr123指出仍然和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]再退炮想办法灭兵。||||红两兵换一象,应和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]红优。应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]劣。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]另一红兵也被灭,[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]和还是黑负?黑方是一打兵一杀吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]拆解为和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]直接将拆解还是不行,可能还是要继续走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]红是一将一捉吧。若是再平炮走闲着,还是回到前面的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]暂到此。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]||還原[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]弈聪注:守和的关键点,不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相,红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着,或用炮拦黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]和?好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻,从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会,之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注:该局面黑将再进一步后,红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉,红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门,已无法动了。||||分析:此时红前兵若再退后一步(19步红可不进兵,其它局面也很容易解决)?红炮若已在二路线呢?两种办法解决:1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将,之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位,红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮,慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]走闲着,先不到中间将,让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后,我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]这样如何?||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步,要平在四路才有用(黑炮在6路无法平)。第19回合红无法变招,||||||另一思路是红后兵不进,用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线,看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]这局势对红不利,红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路,黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的,可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]下会走成相同局面,暂删去。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_28]
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