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发表于 2019-3-10 11:07:14 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2019-3-12 11:33 编辑
dave7788 发表于 2019-3-9 21:12
根据余老师炮8平7妙招改一局,不知能不能成立,明天再说

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[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]sdj[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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减去边兵也可以吧
发表于 2019-3-10 13:38:46 | 显示全部楼层
dave7788 发表于 2019-3-9 21:12
根据余老师炮8平7妙招改一局,不知能不能成立,明天再说

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[DhtmlXQ_title]炮击两狼[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这样是否也能和——红方变招,黑方有没有取胜方法[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]这样可能和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
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发表于 2019-3-12 09:12:59 | 显示全部楼层
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[DhtmlXQ_title]炮击两狼[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_55]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17]这样可能和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46][DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40][DhtmlXQ_comment42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
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发表于 2019-3-13 07:53:20 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2019-3-13 12:04 编辑

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发表于 2019-3-13 09:35:40 | 显示全部楼层
此局很适合摆摊

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[DhtmlXQ_comment17]这样可能和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]正着![/DhtmlXQ_comment21][DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]???[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
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发表于 2019-3-13 11:54:42 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2019-3-13 09:35
此局很适合摆摊

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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]这样可能和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_21]正着![/DhtmlXQ_comment2_21]
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发表于 2019-3-13 12:30:20 | 显示全部楼层
炮8平7陷进多一些吧

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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]这样可能和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]正着![/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]红先和[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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发表于 2019-3-13 12:34:36 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2019-3-13 12:30
炮8平7陷进多一些吧

针对红方无相,余老师提出的炮8平7比炮8退4含蓄!
发表于 2020-9-12 12:47:52 | 显示全部楼层

大量类似[FEN=2P3P2/9/2C1k4/p1p6/9/4r4/9/5R3/1p7/2B2K3 b - - 4 37]相同局面[/FEN]的注解,谁能够找到这个变化?

8楼:副图12的变化似乎也是红胜,和你的结论不一致。
发表于 2020-9-13 06:18:03 | 显示全部楼层
大家久違了

拿去云庫看看
 楼主| 发表于 2020-9-13 17:40:01 | 显示全部楼层
8楼主要是拆解马6退4的变化。开始拆解时以为和棋,后来再次拆解时发现还是红胜。并加了一个副图12的局面。发现很多变化会走成副图12的局面。8楼后来编辑了一下。
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