王首成象棋热门排局诠正

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-6-17 17:15:18

今天刚收到书，摆了几局前面的棋谱。感觉和他前面所出的书重复较多。

现开一贴对感觉有疑问的棋局发一下以共同探讨。

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-6-17 17:16:02

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[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原注：至此，帽子已揭开，以下请大家自行品味、把玩。||||zqhuang补充下面的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]诠正着法1[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]诠正着法2[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]防止红方炮五平四驱卒[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]和棋。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]和。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_1]平车送吃，此乃黑影！[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_1]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2019-6-18 10:08:00

原结论黑胜，诠为黑胜？
增加一个变化吧！

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-6-18 10:33:17

该局还相应见于江湖排局新作和江湖热门棋局揭秘。东萍网中也可查到。若原谱结尾真是和局。我感觉我的诠正着法可能也是错的，昨天未仔细推敲，只是凭感觉

yjr123 · 发表于 2019-6-18 11:15:12

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-6-18 10:33
该局还相应见于江湖排局新作和江湖热门棋局揭秘。东萍网中也可查到。若原谱结尾真是和局。我感觉我的诠正着 ...

是我没有仔细看，1楼第4回合黑方2种着法都注释黑胜，所以认为原谱和诠正结论相同。
实际上第4回合卒4进1也是黑胜

另外书名实在雷同，你说的是象棋热门排局，还有热门棋局揭秘，我误认为是江湖热门棋局揭秘，印象中该书第3局小鹏展翅结论正确。

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-6-20 16:35:55

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[DhtmlXQ_comment18]诠正着法2||||原谱炮7平6和卒8平7的结束局面续弈参考这路变化。一定会走成图1的相似局面。||||这步棋，黑方只要不进后卒，走其它任何着都可。这步棋最好的应着感觉还是炮7平6。为了折解黑胜的规律，以这路变化为主详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]黑炮通过黑高卒抢占6路肋道。黑高卒只要不下去，黑方几个子一定可以走成这种局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]图1||||（把黑炮抢占6路肋道，黑高卒未下的局面统一暂列为图1，放在这个局面下拆解。先不管红帅等的位置）||||以下通过黑炮顿挫，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]以下通过黑炮顿挫走闲，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]当红老帅上顶时，黑胜取难度较大。||黑卒还是先往右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]该局面先备注，红只能动炮（兵）走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74]黑炮双卒象走成一条线，再把黑炮移到前卒前。||||红方可能变招形成的局面：以上若红方变招走兵，红两兵都向左移一步呢？||||[FEN=5C3/2PP5/4bk3/9/9/4c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 37 27]红两兵左移局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76]黑炮先走闲等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]目的是走成第27回合时的局面，红两兵都左移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]这局面（指红两兵左移）黑方是否必胜。感觉红方可和。若能和，则黑方必须防止红方走成这种局面。||||下面也不好拆解。黑炮卒的位置又重新打乱了。取胜有无什么规律可寻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]当红走兵左移的变化时，这种局面应该可以走成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_94]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_88]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]和。同第16回合后卒进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]很多情况下黑方高卒已攻下去。可能在前面回合中，很容易和棋。红方炮在黑将后，防止黑卒进一步靠近，或红炮帅打黑后卒，不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_18]防止红方炮五平四驱卒||||弈聪注：主要还是黑炮能较快的抢占到6路肋道。比炮7退8要好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]和棋。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]和。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]诠正着法1[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_1]平车送吃，此乃黑影！[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_1]
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黑取胜的规律感觉还没有拆解完全。

yjr123 · 发表于 2019-6-20 17:43:21

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-6-20 16:35
黑取胜的规律感觉还没有拆解完全。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN\u003D5Cb2/3PP4/4k1C2/9/9/9/9/3p1p1p1/9/5Kc2 w - - 2 4]诠正着法1。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4C1b2/3PP1c2/5k3/9/9/9/7p1/9/5p3/4K4 w - - 2 9]诠正着法2。[/FEN]||||弈聪注：原谱认为是和棋。原谱结束局面为红炮双兵对黑炮双卒单象。黑方有高卒的情况下还可续弈。除非黑炮没有炮架等一些情况下才可下定论。个人认为原谱结束局面续弈黑可胜。||||[FEN\u003D9/3P1P3/4bk3/9/9/9/4c4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 0 42]暂列黑胜主变（有些变化黑取胜规律还未找到）。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]诠正着法2||||原谱炮7平6和卒8平7的结束局面续弈参考这路变化。一定会走成图1的相似局面。||||这步棋，黑方只要不进后卒，走其它任何着都可。这步棋最好的应着感觉还是炮7平6。为了折解黑胜的规律，以这路变化为主详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]黑炮通过黑高卒抢占6路肋道。黑高卒只要不下去，黑方几个子一定可以走成这种局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]图1||||（把黑炮抢占6路肋道，黑高卒未下的局面统一暂列为图1，放在这个局面下拆解。先不管红帅等的位置）||||以下通过黑炮顿挫，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]以下通过黑炮顿挫走闲，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]当红老帅上顶时，黑胜取难度较大。||黑卒还是先往右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]该局面先备注，红只能动炮（兵）走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_74]黑炮双卒象走成一条线，再把黑炮移到前卒前。||||红方可能变招形成的局面：以上若红方变招走兵，红两兵都向左移一步呢？||||[FEN\u003D5C3/2PP5/4bk3/9/9/4c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 37 27]红两兵左移局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment16_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_76]黑炮先走闲等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_84]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]目的是走成第27回合时的局面，红两兵都左移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]这局面（指红两兵左移）黑方是否必胜。感觉红方可和。若能和，则黑方必须防止红方走成这种局面。||||下面也不好拆解。黑炮卒的位置又重新打乱了。取胜有无什么规律可寻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]当红走兵左移的变化时，这种局面应该可以走成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_94]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_88]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]和。同第16回合后卒进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]很多情况下黑方高卒已攻下去。可能在前面回合中，很容易和棋。红方炮在黑将后，防止黑卒进一步靠近，或红炮帅打黑后卒，不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_18]防止红方炮五平四驱卒||||弈聪注：主要还是黑炮能较快的抢占到6路肋道。比炮7退8要好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]和棋。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]和。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]诠正着法1[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_1]平车送吃，此乃黑影！[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_6]暗藏的黑炮还能打回来！[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_6]
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chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-6-20 18:00:30

本局主要是为了拆解黑单炮高低卒单象是否能胜红单炮双低兵，特意从原局结局开始拆解。这种残局感觉实用性较大。在实战中很容易碰到。取胜也需掌握一定的规律。前面黑方虽然可变招取胜。但基本上是在未兑子之前。

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-6-20 19:37:05

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0][FEN=3kC1r2/4PC3/b7b/2p6/3P5/9/2p6/9/4K4/9 b - - 6 9]诠正着法。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4P4/3k5/b7b/3P5/9/5C3/4p4/9/4K4/9 w - - 5 12]原谱和棋着法。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]诠正着法。||||炮兵可以快一步在肋道将军，黑卒来不及遮挡。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_24]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2019-6-21 13:57:13

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-6-20 18:00
本局主要是为了拆解黑单炮高低卒单象是否能胜红单炮双低兵，特意从原局结局开始拆解。这种残局感觉实用性较 ...

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chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-6-21 16:25:46

本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2019-6-21 18:18 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局拆解主要是为了找到单炮高低兵（有单象）对单炮双低兵的胜和规律。||||[FEN=5Cb2/3PP4/4k1C2/9/9/9/9/3p1p1p1/9/5Kc2 w - - 2 4]诠正着法1。[/FEN]||||[FEN=4C1b2/3PP1c2/5k3/9/9/9/7p1/9/5p3/4K4 w - - 2 9]诠正着法2。[/FEN]||||弈聪注：原谱认为是和棋。原谱结束局面为红炮双兵对黑炮双卒单象。黑方有高卒的情况下还可续弈。除非黑炮没有炮架等一些情况下才可下定论。个人认为原谱结束局面续弈黑可胜。||||[FEN=9/3P1P3/4bk3/9/9/9/4c4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 0 42]暂列黑胜主变（有些变化黑取胜规律还未找到）。[/FEN]||||||||20190621新增着法||||[FEN=1C4b2/3PP4/5k3/9/9/9/6p2/9/4Kcp2/9 b - - 17 17]新增。[/FEN]||||[FEN=9/3PP4/4bk3/1C7/9/4c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 59 38]新增。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原注：至此，帽子已揭开，以下请大家自行品味、把玩。||||zqhuang补充下面的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]诠正着法2||||原谱炮7平6和卒8平7的结束局面续弈参考这路变化。一定会走成图1的相似局面。||||这步棋，黑方只要不进后卒，走其它任何着都可。这步棋最好的应着感觉还是炮7平6。为了折解黑胜的规律，以这路变化为主详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]黑炮通过黑高卒抢占6路肋道。黑高卒只要不下去，黑方几个子一定可以走成这种局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]图1||||（把黑炮抢占6路肋道，黑高卒未下的局面统一暂列为图1，放在这个局面下拆解。先不管红帅等的位置）||||以下通过黑炮顿挫，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]以下通过黑炮顿挫走闲，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]当红老帅上顶时，黑取胜难度较大。||黑卒还是先往右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57]该局面先备注，红只能动炮（兵）走闲。||||[FEN=1C4b2/3PP4/3c1k3/9/9/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 41 29]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74]图2（黑炮双卒象走成一条线，黑特意走应该也是可以走成）||||黑炮双卒象走成一条线，再把黑炮移到前卒前。（红若退炮，炮双卒全部右移侧面做杀）||||红方可能变招形成的局面：以上若红方变招走兵，红两兵都向左移一步呢？||||[FEN=5C3/2PP5/4bk3/9/9/4c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 37 27]红两兵左移局面。[/FEN]||||以下分两种情况：[/DhtmlXQ_comment74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76]黑炮先走闲等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77][FEN=1C7/3PP4/4bk3/9/4c4/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 44 30]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_75]新增变化。这样黑四子走成一条线好象没用，黑中炮移开，红炮就放中打卒。||||原先是为了寻找黑胜规律以为黑四子一条线可必胜的。||||||这局面黑炮双卒全部右移侧面应可杀。若红炮退五挡住黑炮呢？拆解黑炮还是可移到前卒前面。||||还有一种情况是此时红炮在七五位，挡住黑炮平移的路子。感觉很难走成。不过也要分析一下。[FEN=9/3PP4/4bk3/9/9/2C1c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 59 38]转特定局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_87]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]主要是保留平中打卒的棋，走其它变着也负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_84]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]目的为了走了下一回合红止时的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_75]走成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_76]黑动象给黑将让位。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]先防一手。防止红炮再进底。再老将居中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_80]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_81]红炮这路线让不出了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]目的是走成第27回合时的局面，红两兵都左移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]这局面（指红两兵左移）黑方是否必胜。感觉红方可和。若能和，则黑方必须防止红方走成这种局面。||||下面也不好拆解。黑炮卒的位置又重新打乱了。取胜有无什么规律可寻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]当红走兵左移的变化时，这种局面应该可以走成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_94]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_88]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]和。同第16回合后卒进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]yjr123提出。||||红帅不动。动炮走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]该局面黑高卒不能平移，红炮要打低卒。黑炮若移开，红炮还是守住四路肋道。与前面黑想办法抢肋的思路脱节。||||黑高卒能攻下吗，红帅一上顶马上和了。那只能先把黑象移到右路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑先变招。这样红想打黑卒的话就不能抢四路肋道了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]红不愿被黑象隔开先变招。黑两卒按正常走法往中间走。应该有相似局面。||||[FEN=1C4b2/3PP4/3c1k3/9/9/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 41 29]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_60]这样同我之前拆的另一路变化一样。||[FEN=1C7/3PP4/4bk3/9/4c4/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 44 30]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment11_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_63]这样一样了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]至此局面逼红炮表态。下步让红方变招。红方若不愿先变招，走成这个局面下步也可以是黑先走的。但黑可动炮上下走闲让红先走。||||[FEN=1C7/3PP4/b4k3/5c3/9/9/6p2/9/4K1p2/9 w - - 24 20]转下步黑先走的相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_32]很多情况下黑方高卒已攻下去。可能在前面回合中，很容易和棋。红方炮在黑将后，防止黑卒进一步靠近，或红炮帅打黑后卒，不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_18]防止红方炮五平四驱卒||||弈聪注：主要还是黑炮能较快的抢占到6路肋道。比炮7退8要好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]和棋。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]和。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]诠正着法1[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_1]平车送吃，此乃黑影！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]暗藏的黑炮还能打回来！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2019-6-22 09:25:19

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-6-21 16:25

那16回合黑炮6退2不是更直接！
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局拆解主要是为了找到单炮高低兵（有单象）对单炮双低兵的胜和规律。||||[FEN\u003D5Cb2/3PP4/4k1C2/9/9/9/9/3p1p1p1/9/5Kc2 w - - 2 4]诠正着法1。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4C1b2/3PP1c2/5k3/9/9/9/7p1/9/5p3/4K4 w - - 2 9]诠正着法2。[/FEN]||||弈聪注：原谱认为是和棋。原谱结束局面为红炮双兵对黑炮双卒单象。黑方有高卒的情况下还可续弈。除非黑炮没有炮架等一些情况下才可下定论。个人认为原谱结束局面续弈黑可胜。||||[FEN\u003D9/3P1P3/4bk3/9/9/9/4c4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 0 42]暂列黑胜主变（有些变化黑取胜规律还未找到）。[/FEN]||||||||20190621新增着法||||[FEN\u003D1C4b2/3PP4/5k3/9/9/9/6p2/9/4Kcp2/9 b - - 17 17]新增。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3PP4/4bk3/1C7/9/4c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 59 38]新增。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原注：至此，帽子已揭开，以下请大家自行品味、把玩。||||zqhuang补充下面的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]诠正着法2||||原谱炮7平6和卒8平7的结束局面续弈参考这路变化。一定会走成图1的相似局面。||||这步棋，黑方只要不进后卒，走其它任何着都可。这步棋最好的应着感觉还是炮7平6。为了折解黑胜的规律，以这路变化为主详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]黑炮通过黑高卒抢占6路肋道。黑高卒只要不下去，黑方几个子一定可以走成这种局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_32]图1||||（把黑炮抢占6路肋道，黑高卒未下的局面统一暂列为图1，放在这个局面下拆解。先不管红帅等的位置）||||以下通过黑炮顿挫，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_34]以下通过黑炮顿挫走闲，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_36]当红老帅上顶时，黑取胜难度较大。||黑卒还是先往右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_57]该局面先备注，红只能动炮（兵）走闲。||||[FEN\u003D1C4b2/3PP4/3c1k3/9/9/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 41 29]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_74]图2（黑炮双卒象走成一条线，黑特意走应该也是可以走成）||||黑炮双卒象走成一条线，再把黑炮移到前卒前。（红若退炮，炮双卒全部右移侧面做杀）||||红方可能变招形成的局面：以上若红方变招走兵，红两兵都向左移一步呢？||||[FEN\u003D5C3/2PP5/4bk3/9/9/4c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 37 27]红两兵左移局面。[/FEN]||||以下分两种情况：[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_76]黑炮先走闲等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_77][FEN\u003D1C7/3PP4/4bk3/9/4c4/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 44 30]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment24_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_84]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_75]新增变化。这样黑四子走成一条线好象没用，黑中炮移开，红炮就放中打卒。||||原先是为了寻找黑胜规律以为黑四子一条线可必胜的。||||||这局面黑炮双卒全部右移侧面应可杀。若红炮退五挡住黑炮呢？拆解黑炮还是可移到前卒前面。||||还有一种情况是此时红炮在七五位，挡住黑炮平移的路子。感觉很难走成。不过也要分析一下。[FEN\u003D9/3PP4/4bk3/9/9/2C1c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 59 38]转特定局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_87]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]主要是保留平中打卒的棋，走其它变着也负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_84]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]目的为了走了下一回合红止时的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_75]走成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_76]黑动象给黑将让位。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]先防一手。防止红炮再进底。再老将居中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_80]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_81]红炮这路线让不出了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]目的是走成第27回合时的局面，红两兵都左移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]这局面（指红两兵左移）黑方是否必胜。感觉红方可和。若能和，则黑方必须防止红方走成这种局面。||||下面也不好拆解。黑炮卒的位置又重新打乱了。取胜有无什么规律可寻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]当红走兵左移的变化时，这种局面应该可以走成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_94]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_88]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]和。同第16回合后卒进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]yjr123提出。||||红帅不动。动炮走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]该局面黑高卒不能平移，红炮要打低卒。黑炮若移开，红炮还是守住四路肋道。与前面黑想办法抢肋的思路脱节。||||黑高卒能攻下吗，红帅一上顶马上和了。那只能先把黑象移到右路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑先变招。这样红想打黑卒的话就不能抢四路肋道了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]红不愿被黑象隔开先变招。黑两卒按正常走法往中间走。应该有相似局面。||||[FEN\u003D1C4b2/3PP4/3c1k3/9/9/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 41 29]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_60]这样同我之前拆的另一路变化一样。||[FEN\u003D1C7/3PP4/4bk3/9/4c4/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 44 30]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment11_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_63]这样一样了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]至此局面逼红炮表态。下步让红方变招。红方若不愿先变招，走成这个局面下步也可以是黑先走的。但黑可动炮上下走闲让红先走。||||[FEN\u003D1C7/3PP4/b4k3/5c3/9/9/6p2/9/4K1p2/9 w - - 24 20]转下步黑先走的相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_32]很多情况下黑方高卒已攻下去。可能在前面回合中，很容易和棋。红方炮在黑将后，防止黑卒进一步靠近，或红炮帅打黑后卒，不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_18]防止红方炮五平四驱卒||||弈聪注：主要还是黑炮能较快的抢占到6路肋道。比炮7退8要好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]和棋。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]和。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]诠正着法1[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_1]平车送吃，此乃黑影！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]暗藏的黑炮还能打回来！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]
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chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-6-22 11:56:25

第16，17，18回合，黑炮主要是走闲，目的是让红帅等子处于不同位置，利于分析。

yjr123 · 发表于 2019-6-22 15:47:21

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-6-22 11:56
第16，17，18回合，黑炮主要是走闲，目的是让红帅等子处于不同位置，利于分析。

确实够闲，研究实用残局不会直接摆出各种局势，然后研究具体取胜规律？
拟着遇到可循环的，应该是进攻方变着。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局拆解主要是为了找到单炮高低兵（有单象）对单炮双低兵的胜和规律。||||[FEN\u003D5Cb2/3PP4/4k1C2/9/9/9/9/3p1p1p1/9/5Kc2 w - - 2 4]诠正着法1。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4C1b2/3PP1c2/5k3/9/9/9/7p1/9/5p3/4K4 w - - 2 9]诠正着法2。[/FEN]||||弈聪注：原谱认为是和棋。原谱结束局面为红炮双兵对黑炮双卒单象。黑方有高卒的情况下还可续弈。除非黑炮没有炮架等一些情况下才可下定论。个人认为原谱结束局面续弈黑可胜。||||[FEN\u003D9/3P1P3/4bk3/9/9/9/4c4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 0 42]暂列黑胜主变（有些变化黑取胜规律还未找到）。[/FEN]||||||||20190621新增着法||||[FEN\u003D1C4b2/3PP4/5k3/9/9/9/6p2/9/4Kcp2/9 b - - 17 17]新增。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/3PP4/4bk3/1C7/9/4c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 59 38]新增。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]原注：至此，帽子已揭开，以下请大家自行品味、把玩。||||zqhuang补充下面的着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]诠正着法2||||原谱炮7平6和卒8平7的结束局面续弈参考这路变化。一定会走成图1的相似局面。||||这步棋，黑方只要不进后卒，走其它任何着都可。这步棋最好的应着感觉还是炮7平6。为了折解黑胜的规律，以这路变化为主详细拆解。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]黑炮通过黑高卒抢占6路肋道。黑高卒只要不下去，黑方几个子一定可以走成这种局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]图1||||（把黑炮抢占6路肋道，黑高卒未下的局面统一暂列为图1，放在这个局面下拆解。先不管红帅等的位置）||||以下通过黑炮顿挫，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]以下通过黑炮顿挫走闲，让红帅处下不同位置。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]当红老帅上顶时，黑取胜难度较大。||黑卒还是先往右移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_57]该局面先备注，红只能动炮（兵）走闲。||||[FEN\u003D1C4b2/3PP4/3c1k3/9/9/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 41 29]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment25_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_74]图2（黑炮双卒象走成一条线，黑特意走应该也是可以走成）||||黑炮双卒象走成一条线，再把黑炮移到前卒前。（红若退炮，炮双卒全部右移侧面做杀）||||红方可能变招形成的局面：以上若红方变招走兵，红两兵都向左移一步呢？||||[FEN\u003D5C3/2PP5/4bk3/9/9/4c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 37 27]红两兵左移局面。[/FEN]||||以下分两种情况：[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_74]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_76]黑炮先走闲等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_77][FEN\u003D1C7/3PP4/4bk3/9/4c4/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 44 30]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment25_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_84]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_75]新增变化。这样黑四子走成一条线好象没用，黑中炮移开，红炮就放中打卒。||||原先是为了寻找黑胜规律以为黑四子一条线可必胜的。||||||这局面黑炮双卒全部右移侧面应可杀。若红炮退五挡住黑炮呢？拆解黑炮还是可移到前卒前面。||||还有一种情况是此时红炮在七五位，挡住黑炮平移的路子。感觉很难走成。不过也要分析一下。[FEN\u003D9/3PP4/4bk3/9/9/2C1c4/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 59 38]转特定局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment1_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_87]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]主要是保留平中打卒的棋，走其它变着也负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_84]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_84]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]目的为了走了下一回合红止时的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_75]走成该局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_76]黑动象给黑将让位。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]先防一手。防止红炮再进底。再老将居中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_80]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_81]红炮这路线让不出了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]目的是走成第27回合时的局面，红两兵都左移。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]这局面（指红两兵左移）黑方是否必胜。感觉红方可和。若能和，则黑方必须防止红方走成这种局面。||||下面也不好拆解。黑炮卒的位置又重新打乱了。取胜有无什么规律可寻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]当红走兵左移的变化时，这种局面应该可以走成。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_94]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_94]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_88]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_88]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]和。同第16回合后卒进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]yjr123提出。||||红帅不动。动炮走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]该局面黑高卒不能平移，红炮要打低卒。黑炮若移开，红炮还是守住四路肋道。与前面黑想办法抢肋的思路脱节。||||黑高卒能攻下吗，红帅一上顶马上和了。那只能先把黑象移到右路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]黑先变招。这样红想打黑卒的话就不能抢四路肋道了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]红不愿被黑象隔开先变招。黑两卒按正常走法往中间走。应该有相似局面。||||[FEN\u003D1C4b2/3PP4/3c1k3/9/9/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 b - - 41 29]相似局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_60]这样同我之前拆的另一路变化一样。||[FEN\u003D1C7/3PP4/4bk3/9/4c4/9/4p4/3K5/4p4/9 w - - 44 30]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment11_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_63]这样一样了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]至此局面逼红炮表态。下步让红方变招。红方若不愿先变招，走成这个局面下步也可以是黑先走的。但黑可动炮上下走闲让红先走。||||[FEN\u003D1C7/3PP4/b4k3/5c3/9/9/6p2/9/4K1p2/9 w - - 24 20]转下步黑先走的相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_32]很多情况下黑方高卒已攻下去。可能在前面回合中，很容易和棋。红方炮在黑将后，防止黑卒进一步靠近，或红炮帅打黑后卒，不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_18]防止红方炮五平四驱卒||||弈聪注：主要还是黑炮能较快的抢占到6路肋道。比炮7退8要好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]和棋。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]和。||||弈聪注：续弈黑应可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]诠正着法1[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_1]平车送吃，此乃黑影！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]暗藏的黑炮还能打回来！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0] 这是马路棋摊上的江湖艺人对“火烧连营”局的不断演变和发展的结果，着法深奥，变化精妙。||||三兵连营局我也深入研究多年。其实上将走法结论是红胜！另外炮5平6的走法结论是红可胜的！不过不经深入研究不易发现啊！还是维持之前象5进7、炮5平7和炮5平9三种主变为好！裂变可不再列出！||||[FEN=4c4/3k3C1/4b1C2/P8/1P7/2P3B2/9/9/4p2p1/5K3 b - - 6 11]序战部分。[/FEN]||||||以下诠正链接以王首成2019年出版的象棋热门排局为参考对象。||[FEN=5c3/6C2/3kb4/P6C1/1P7/2P3B2/9/9/4p2p1/5K3 b - - 10 13]诠正1。[/FEN]||||[FEN=3k5/6C2/4b4/P4cC2/1P7/2P3B2/9/9/4p2p1/5K3 b - - 6 11]诠正2。[/FEN]||||[FEN=8c/3k5/4b4/P8/1P7/2P6/6C2/4B4/4p2p1/5K3 w - - 2 15]诠正3。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]解杀还杀，攻守两用之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13] 此时形势，两卒闯入九宫，另一卒潜伏８路；红虽多炮多兵，但阵容非常零散，三兵遥远，对黑将暂无威胁，只能运用双炮的阻挠纠缠，以求谋和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]退炮局，是最为复杂的变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18]这一步棋，其实是三兵连营和现行棋规的冲突所在。黑方如果走将4退1则可逼迫红方“犯规”||||然而江湖棋摊上按民间惯例允许炮不动时长打，那么将4退1反而成了索然无味的一着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]再退三路炮照将，这步棋是“三兵连营”谋和的关键要着。江湖上俗称“打出高低炮”。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]　　由于动象容易成和，故改退将以求变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]以下黑方分为四种着法变化如下，黑方炮5平7打相着法凶狠，是本局第一种变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]　　争取时间，驱兵迫王；同时又可以在必要时炮三平九，回防救险。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]　　黑方步步紧逼，毫不放松，这是最后的暗藏杀机之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]诠正，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_43]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_26]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_26]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_29]　　此时黑卒无法立中，红方胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_25]？||||这就是江湖上著名的“倒打三兵”的变化，红劣黑胜。然黑胜法十分曲折，稍有不慎，反成红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_72]红必失兵，黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_110]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_110]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]不如趁早弃掉好一点。黑也胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_44]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_56]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]黑生定。||||倒打三兵的变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_62]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_37]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_39]按民间惯例和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_33]双方不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]若变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_31]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_30][FEN=6c2/6C1C/3kb4/P8/1P7/2P3B2/9/9/4p2p1/5K3 w - - 11 13]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment35_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_40]双方不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_36]误。贪胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_45]打双卒，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_32]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_40]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_31]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_37]再平中打黑卒红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_32]误。反成红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_39]　　反成红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56_41]和？？[/DhtmlXQ_comment56_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment58_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_34]黑胜。见相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_28]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_35]驱卒，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_30]诠正3。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]下步黑炮平3。和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment62_31]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment62_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_26][FEN=6c2/6C1C/3kb4/P8/1P7/2P3B2/9/9/4p2p1/5K3 w - - 11 13]相同局面。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment63_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_25]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_36]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_22]该路变化红胜。||||炮5平6的变化！因为将4退1的变化较为简单，红方好走。可能之前的研究不是很深入。此变最早在杨明忠和翟问秋著作的《民间象棋排局选》中研究认为是和棋，之后各谱均认为是和！我反复研究之后觉得实际红方可胜！希望大家共同探讨。稍后我发布着法！[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_23]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_38]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_25]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_26]黑应其它也负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_37]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_27]下步红炮二平三。红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_25]误。||||原谱注解着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_33]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_54]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_31]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_20]较软之着，使红方容易成和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_23]　　准备弃炮升帅。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_27]将帅特许长捉，双方不变速和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_24]误。用强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_31]　　至此，黑方双卒失去战斗力，以单炮孤象与红方三兵对抗，势必遭到围攻而失败。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_20]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_23]驱走或兑掉黑卒，红皆必胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment84_27]||和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment84_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_24]||||？[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment85_31]||红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment85_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment86_29]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment86_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_19]误。看似一举两得，飞相既避炮轰，又阻敌卒，好象是步好棋，其实此时双炮并线，不宜急于飞相，这是“三兵连营”的微妙之处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_20]　　运象由７路至９路，然后炮５平７轰相，使老将有活动余地，否则如急于炮５平７，则兵九平八，结果失去胜机而成和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_18]这步棋将导致红方只能按民间惯例求和[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_30]　　双方不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_24]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_35]不变和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_25]　　至此，由于主打子红炮和被打子黑卒都不走动，仅仅是红相与黑象在炮架上的争端，根据民间惯例，黑方如欲求胜，必须变着，双方不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_21]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment95_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment95_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment96_27]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment96_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_17]误。这是“单兵连营”的走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_18]此变，据对三兵连营有深入研究的hanghang棋友称，是红胜。||着法如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_21]诠正。[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment99_23]至此黑已经没有任何进攻手段，红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_37]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_21]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_28]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_25]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_25]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_23]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment106_31]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment106_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_24]zqhuang注：其实这步才是输棋的原因。走炮5平7可以和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment107_39]红双高兵可胜黑单炮低卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment107_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment108_45]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment108_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_23]失去胜机。||||注解合并：||失去胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment109_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment109_47]和。||||注解合并：||和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment109_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment110_33]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment110_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment111_29]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment111_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment112_35]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment112_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment113_41]黑不利。||||注解合并：||黑不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment113_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_30]误。||||注解合并：||误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment114_35]双打卒，红胜定。||||注解合并：||双打卒，红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment114_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_26]误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment115_31]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment115_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment117_27]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment117_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_14]将4进1的变化！此变在在陈广仁先生著的《江湖流行残局揭秘》中诠正为红胜！个人认为结论正确，但是着法有误！在朱鹤洲先生编著的《江湖排局集成》中认为是和棋！||||进将局，据对三兵连营有深入研究的anghang棋友称应该是红胜。着法如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_17]正着[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_19]取胜关键，hanghang棋友认为这样是红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment119_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment119_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment120_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment120_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment121_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment121_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122_37]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment122_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment123_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_19]这是《精解》中的走法，结果只能按民间惯例成和。按现行棋规则是黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment124_30]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment124_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment125_30]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment125_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment126_33]按民间惯例算和棋||||（有棋规问题）[/DhtmlXQ_comment126_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment127_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment127_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment128_32]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment128_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_24]||劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment129_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment129_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_19]这样和[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment131_34]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment131_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment132_21]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment132_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment133_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment133_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment136_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment136_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_17]这样只能按民间惯例和，按现行棋规黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_22]这样其实红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment137_28]双方不变作和。||||注解合并：||双方不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment137_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment138_27]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment138_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_22]诠正走法[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment139_24]按民间惯例和||||（有棋规问题）[/DhtmlXQ_comment139_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_11]误。||||注解合并：||误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment140_18]黑胜。||||注解合并：||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment140_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment141_16]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment141_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment142_16]黑胜。||||注解合并：||黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment142_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_3]这样掉入江湖排局陷阱[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment143_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment143_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment144_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment144_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment145_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment145_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment146_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment146_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment147_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment147_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment148_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment148_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment149_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment149_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment150_8]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment150_8]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2019-7-16 14:53:46

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-7-15 20:13
晚上没事继续打谱一下。

和9楼有什么区别？

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-7-16 18:17:45

忘了发过了。昨天又开始打该书。该书和其它书中的重复棋谱较多。直接跳过。原贴会以其它谱替代。

chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-8-11 23:03:09

本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2019-8-12 11:16 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]诠正。||||第一步兵五平六可能更加好。第二步也可兵五平六，只是次序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]车不退也没棋走。退车后另一车也想办法退回，兑车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]这步棋黑可能可变招，黑车上下走或进卒。红也可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]红想办兑掉黑车成车对马炮应可胜。||||兑车后，要阻止黑走成例和局面。主要是黑炮走在老将后就可和了。以下着法可能不是很准确，反正按这个原理走应该可胜的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_81]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]还是直接兑掉也可，迟早要兑。就是什么局面兑掉较好的问题。||||下面着法可能不是很准确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_82]红可胜。下略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_1]成红双车炮对黑车马炮，再兑车成车炮对马炮。未拆解。主要是黑马不能后退了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_1]
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sunyt · 发表于 2019-8-12 09:13:14

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[DhtmlXQ_comment63]得炮胜定！[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_81]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_81]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2019-8-12 21:26:56

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-8-11 23:03

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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]诠正。||||第一步兵五平六可能更加好。第二步也可兵五平六，只是次序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]车不退也没棋走。退车后另一车也想办法退回，兑车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]这步棋黑可能可变招，黑车上下走或进卒。红也可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]红想办兑掉黑车成车对马炮应可胜。||||兑车后，要阻止黑走成例和局面。主要是黑炮走在老将后就可和了。以下着法可能不是很准确，反正按这个原理走应该可胜的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_63]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_81]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]还是直接兑掉也可，迟早要兑。就是什么局面兑掉较好的问题。||||下面着法可能不是很准确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_82]红可胜。下略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_1]成红双车炮对黑车马炮，再兑车成车炮对马炮。未拆解。主要是黑马不能后退了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_1]
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chouzhouyu · 发表于 2019-8-12 22:29:49

本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2019-8-12 22:47 编辑

聊吟客提出的招法很厉害。红好象兑不了车。再拆解了一下，红再提前变招。看是否成立。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment5]诠正。||||第一步兵五平六可能更加好。第二步也可兵五平六，只是次序不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]车不退也没棋走。退车后另一车也想办法退回，兑车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]这步棋黑可能可变招，黑车上下走或进卒。红也可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]红想办兑掉黑车成车对马炮应可胜。||||以上应法感觉无大的问题。||||兑车后，要阻止黑走成例和局面。主要是黑炮走在老将后就可和了。以下着法可能不是很准确，反正按这个原理走应该可胜的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]直接退车兑。黑可避兑吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]还是有这步棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]等一手，直接兑黑炮到中间将。下步用中车去兑。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]这步黑走其它，红车有机会就来兑。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]黑想避兑只能到这个地方再退保马吧。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]这步能不能变招。红中路可能不能弃掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_38]聨吟客提出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_58]和？黑车兑不了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_81]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_81]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_41]还是直接兑掉也可，迟早要兑。就是什么局面兑掉较好的问题。||||下面着法可能不是很准确。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_82]红可胜。下略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]拦红车呢。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]叫杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_1]成红双车炮对黑车马炮，再兑车成车炮对马炮。未拆解。主要是黑马不能后退了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_1]
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石川铃华老湿 · 发表于 2021-7-17 17:16:39

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-8-12 22:29
聊吟客提出的招法很厉害。红好象兑不了车。再拆解了一下，红再提前变招。看是否成立。

这局我拟创的

石川铃华老湿 · 发表于 2021-7-20 11:48:47

本帖最后由石川铃华老湿于 2021-7-20 11:54 编辑

chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-8-12 22:29
聊吟客提出的招法很厉害。红好象兑不了车。再拆解了一下，红再提前变招。看是否成立。

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