《秀钟山岳》修正局

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[DhtmlXQ_title]第十七局  秀钟山岳[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]加2路卒的作用显现。抑制了帅六平五的变化，炮１进３，相七进九，卒２进１，车五进一，将６进１，兵六平五，将６进１，车五平三，卒２进１，相九退七，卒２平３，帅五进一，卒４进１，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]加七路高相的作用显现。抑制了炮１进３，相七进九，马６退５（呵呵，高相可以吃马啊），帅六平五，马５进４，相九退七，车７进９，帅五进一，卒４平５，车五退六，车７退１，帅五退一，马４退３，相七进九，车７进１黑胜的变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_53]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_53]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment31_76]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_76]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment33_69]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_69]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment40_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_20]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_20]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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聨吟客

台北市西門町那局  我以前曾經研究了好久
好像是黑可勝

那位攤主後來 消失
想繳學費給他也找不到了

七路兵的那局我也解不透
誤入許多歧途
以前台北市中華路的攤主喜歡擺的
後來我放 到華工網由趙老師解出黑勝

台北市棋攤們已消失約三十年了

wolaikk

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[DhtmlXQ_title]第十七局  寒汀落雁（红先和）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]      据云，许多年前曾经在台北市西门町的江湖棋摊见到过，现增添九路兵后别有一番趣味。吟联以记之“寒汀落雁禾齐秀，暮雨怜芳西门町”。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_24]
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第十七局  钟灵琉秀（红先黑胜）[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_24]正着[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_36]如果不允许一将一捉，则红胜，如果允许则和棋，因为红是一将一闲（邀兑车是闲），黑是一将一捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_76]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_44]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_10]
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聨吟客

我添邊兵改局
以前發表過與象棋法官等人討論似乎可和?
大家再幫忙研究確認看看
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wolaikk

和棋成立。从把玩的角度更喜欢单兵局，
双兵局有强迫黑方走正着的嫌疑。

wolaikk

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]寒汀落雁禾齐秀，暮雨怜芳西门町。||中华路上七兵局，山岳杳隐三十謦。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment65]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_73]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_73]
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聨吟客

很多黑勝局都討人喜歡
我也較喜愛西門町的那局原局(未加邊兵)

聨吟客

11回合先進將如何
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将6进1很微妙啊，变化繁杂

老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2019-11-16 06:24
11回合先進將如何

网络上还可搜出一局”寒汀暮雨的另一个棋图“，即：陈兄所说西门町无边兵的那一局，将七路卒移为三路原位卒，解为和局。请教一下陈兄，此局又是从哪里来的？

此类棋局至今有正式刊载者仅发现四局，即：手抄本《江湖特种排局》之”寒汀暮雨“、”梅雪飘香“，林幼如《会珍阁》之”秀钟山岳“，瞿问秋、杨明忠《象棋民间排局》（1984年版）之”龙争虎斗二“。加上这里所列和提及的，总共也就十来局，所以大有开发的余地，只可惜很少有人涉猎！

聨吟客

老鸽子 发表于 2021-11-25 15:58
网络上还可搜出一局”寒汀暮雨的另一个棋图“，即：陈兄所说西门町无边兵的那一局，将七路卒移为三路原位 ...

西門町的那局嗎

就是西門町那位攤主擺的
只有他擺此局 未見其他攤主擺也未見有任何棋譜紀載 可能是他本人的改局
變化複雜有趣 可惜黑勝

而中華路那位攤主擺的就是鍾若文書上的那局
也是黑勝

中華路就在西門町的外圍 也可算是西門町的一部分
但兩位攤主相距有一段路的  呵呵呵

聨吟客

西門町那局的黑勝走法我不知貼在哪裡
也沒有筆記下來

還是我記錯了
真是糟糕

老鸽子

稍有不同，将西门町局七路卒移作三路原位卒，其余完全相同，局名就叫”寒汀暮雨的另一个棋图“，去年网上还可以搜出来！

聨吟客

老鸽子 发表于 2021-11-25 20:39
稍有不同，将西门町局七路卒移作三路原位卒，其余完全相同，局名就叫”寒汀暮雨的另一个棋图“，去年网上还 ...

[江湖特種排局]的 寒汀暮雨 原局  與[ 會珍閣]的秀鍾山岳原局是同一個局面

[適情雅趣]的 伴食持危 是另一個局面

以上各樓都是這兩種原局所改擬的
西門町那局就是伴局添78位卒而成

老鸽子

谢谢！您所说两种原局应是八路黑车与七路黑车这两种吧。

本人收藏的《会珍阁》”秀钟山岳“原图，黑车在七路，已核对过朱鹤洲的《江湖排局集成》，应无问题。至于《江湖特种排局》”寒汀暮雨“局，本人采自网络，唯一区别是黑车在八路（当然红车位置随之改变）。按您所说，此图不是原图，就是七路黑车。那么，我收藏的这局”寒汀暮雨“可能是裘望禹、朱鹤舟、蒋权诠改的，也就是您所说的”伴食持危“局。

总的而言，加上钟若文的那一局，已正式刊载的本类棋局总共只有五局。当然，在这五局中，原名或改名收录者众多，但图势均未改。

《适情雅趣》本人至少拜读过三遍，但都未见过”伴食持危“局。还有三畏光启堂刻本《适情雅趣》之”舍生取义“局（亦即现代的”三打祝家庄“、”双飞蝴蝶“类局），找了几年也未找到。再次谢谢！

聨吟客

我那本適情雅趣一時沒找到
難道我記錯了
呵呵呵

鍾若文的第二本書也有收錄伴食持危局
他說原譜象棋新編 取材自江湖秘 譜

老鸽子

可能有此局，曾记得《象棋谱大全》里有一些记叙，有几局是目前我们看到的《适情雅趣》所没有的。一些诠改图常采用更久远的古谱。

老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2021-11-26 17:39
我那本適情雅趣一時沒找到
難道我記錯了
呵呵呵

陈兄，新年好！最近详细查了一下《象棋谱大全》里的《适情雅趣》（以邓云龙遗本为主），其许多棋图、局名虽与清代敦化怀德堂木刻本（即目前网上流行的）不同，却不见“伴食持危”局。那么，此局就是出自明代三畏光启堂刻本了，因为现在存世的也仅有以上三种约十来部。

此外，特别向您请教一下，现代对《韬略元机》和《心武残编》诠释得比较好的书籍是哪些？对于《韬谱》，在下目前只有屠景明本，但它似乎有点过时。对于《心谱》，在下已有金启昌、李中健；蒋权、朱鹤洲、裘望禹；李浭、苏德龙（校阅）；白宏宽、周平诠注改编本，但它们几乎都只诠正着法。现代的改局都是从《百局》、《竹谱》下手的，真令人不解！当然，这与《心谱》的错误率相对最少有关，但其棋局复杂，仍不可避免有大量的问题啊！

聨吟客

我買的那本適情雅趣詮注本失蹤了 不知放到哪裡去了

鴿兄問的這些問題應該請教大陸的棋友們才是

心譜我只有白宏寬 周平 詮注本

韜略元機我忘了有沒有買 還要找一下才知道

竹譜我買得最多  百局譜買兩種
哪一種最佳我也不敢妄言 各家皆有所長 也不可能百分之百完全無誤

大概竹譜與百局譜流傳較廣較為人知吧  

yjr123

wolaikk 发表于 2019-11-18 11:21

这样比较好

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聨吟客

西門町那局取名 西町暮雨    如何

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈.......................................................

老鸽子

聨吟客 发表于 2022-2-14 22:22
我買的那本適情雅趣詮注本失蹤了 不知放到哪裡去了

鴿兄問的這些問題應該請教大陸的棋友們才是

百局、竹谱的诠释多过浓，韬谱、心谱的诠释很难找。

yjr123

老鸽子 发表于 2022-2-16 09:35
百局、竹谱的诠释多过浓，韬谱、心谱的诠释很难找。

老鸽子

yjr123 发表于 2022-2-17 10:09

谢谢余老师！可能我的积分不够，点进去后显示：没有权限下载（查看）本附件。

yjr123

老鸽子 发表于 2022-2-17 11:14
谢谢余老师！可能我的积分不够，点进去后显示：没有权限下载（查看）本附件。

怎么要下载？不是直接看到图片？
我搞不懂了

老鸽子

yjr123 发表于 2022-2-17 11:36
怎么要下载？不是直接看到图片？
我搞不懂了

点不进去，一点就显示：“你没有权限下载本附件”，什么都看不到。

聨吟客

云庫這樣走 黑兌車是否不是最佳走法呢

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石川铃华老湿

老鸽子 发表于 2021-11-25 15:58
网络上还可搜出一局”寒汀暮雨的另一个棋图“，即：陈兄所说西门町无边兵的那一局，将七路卒移为三路原位 ...

这局我也改过，不知道在哪里发表了