zqhuang在泓弈网发的棋局

邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 20:57:03

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 21:01:41

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 21:07:09

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 21:08:50

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 21:11:27

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 21:15:58

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 21:23:13

787878的帖子呵呵: 还是忍不住. 此局是黑胜局. 13楼的着法有明显的错误(第７着红应走车三退二而不是走兵七进一！）．按７楼是可和，只是简单了点．是否还有其它方案呢？

邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 21:49:31

这局棋无局名，也没见过。着法非常精彩，在泓弈网尝弈网友认为黑胜，但着法并不正确，7楼787878棋友也认为黑胜，但未说明如何取胜，且所指6楼 (第７着红应走车三退二而不是走兵七进一！）．并不正确，黑可接走 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999937999999995099219999999999580232309999999910482857999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]du1[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]3040624240504248101848581858[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ] 5楼黑虽有优势，但我觉得红能守和。请各位师友对此局研究到底是和是胜。

hzsjy · 发表于 2011-4-17 21:53:44

此局第７着如走炮四退五的话（从头演示）： 1. 车二进三象５退７ 2. 车二平三士５退６ 3. 炮一平四马６退８ 4. 炮四退五炮５退８ 5. 兵七平六将４进１ 6. 车三平五炮２进１ 7. 车五退八马８退６ 8. 车五进二马６进８ 9. 车五退二马８退６ 10. 车五进二马６进８ 11. 车五退二马８退６ 12. 车五进二马６进８红长捉黑胜定。

hzsjy · 发表于 2011-4-17 22:02:21

红应走： 1. 车二进三象５退７ 2. 车二平三士５退６ 3. 炮一平四炮２退８ 4. 车三退二将４平５ 5. 车三平五将５平６ 6. 车五平四将６平５ 7. 车四退五炮２进８ 8. 车四退一黑双炮与卒被牵，可和吗？

邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-17 22:22:08

刚刚看到想重新编辑8楼帖子，还是晚您一步。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-4-18 06:55:20

回复 9# hzsjy

這樣還有變化,研究看看
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hzsjy · 发表于 2011-4-18 07:34:24

嗯：
我９楼的着法是有问题．您末着走捉卒，还可走捉马．
现在看来此局是和局．

棋人ctq · 发表于 2011-4-18 14:47:33

回复 4# 邢春波

结尾黑接走炮7平5，红难求和。

667 · 发表于 2011-4-18 15:25:25

回复 14# 棋人ctq

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-4-18 21:54:59

白天没有时间，中午研究了一下，晚上打开电脑所研究着法已被联吟客棋友发出，但不全面总结一下
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