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凌云子

小局1则

<瑞犬迎春>

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-10 2:30:15编辑过]

凌云子

以下是引用yjr123在2006-2-8 12:25:00的发言：

不知道凌云子的小局标准是什么？

2楼第10回合红方如果将士五进六改为士五退六，结果会怎样呢？

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-10 2:23:38编辑过]

凌云子

就和局而言

大型的只是极少数的残局

而我以为

"旺犬闹春"加兵卒,可能成中型排局.

现在的"狗娃闹春,瑞犬迎春,神犬啸天"等是小局

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-24 1:00:32编辑过]

yjr123

yjr123

大局小局取决于变化多少，并非根据子力多寡而定，因为增子并不一定增加变化。

我认为一些变化较少且容易把握的可以称为小局，作者自己都无法把握变化却称为小局是否对自己有些……。

凌云子

呵呵!

谢谢指点!

凌云子

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-28 7:16:27编辑过]

凌云子

上图第５９着后形成的图势：

凌云子

7楼有误

黑8卒太近！

黑速胜！

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-6 1:00:50编辑过]

凌云子

这是当初在[狗娃闹春]的添兵卒局，应该可以成立。

凌云子

这样会更好！

hzsjy

以下是引用凌云子在2006-3-10 0:48:00的发言：

这样会更好！

28着黑走

１４．．．．．车６退３
１５．帅六退一卒５进１
１６．士五进六车６进３
（１６回合红另有选择）

红以后如何应？

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-10 22:19:31编辑过]

凌云子

您好。

呵呵！

是28着！

请先看一下图 ！谢谢！

以下是2006-2-25 7:15:00的发言：

hzsjy

您好：

楼上的图是先前的，现在图已改，所以着法有变化了．

(此路变化应着正确是红胜.)

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-10 23:21:44编辑过]

hzsjy

以下是引用凌云子在2006-3-10 0:48:00的发言：

这样会更好！

38着
黑车6进2...........
40着:
黑卒5进1...........
42着(关键):
黑车6进2...........

红如何应?

简单演示如下(已将重复和无用着法去除):

瑞犬迎春(未知)

小车马

15楼还可以继续走，

hzsjy

好棋!
有否以下着法?
瑞犬迎春(未知)

小车马

以下是引用凌云子在2006-3-10 22:32:00的发言：

您好。

呵呵！

是28着！

请先看一下图 ！谢谢！

以下是2006-2-25 7:15:00的发言：

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[DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnn485737nnnn59nnnn533342nn223629nnnn51nn60nnnnnn283569nnnnnn[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]一闹春||[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]二闹春||[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]如改走士五退六与士五退四基本相同,和....[士五退六变可避免卒7平6吃士的变化.]||[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]三闹春||[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]四闹春||[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment122]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment122]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment266]和||[/DhtmlXQ_comment266]
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车6进3的变化有问题：

小车马

17楼的变着13楼已经有演示，红方不用走兵五平六应该可胜。

hzsjy

好!
看来着法或图要重新考虑了!

hzsjy

13楼黑是车6进3,17楼是黑车6进2.不一样.

凌云子

首先感谢hzsjy 小车马，二位的热烈讨论！

第15，17楼的第8着应车4平6！

其次第18 楼：

以下是引用小车马在2006-3-13 18:53:00的发言：

车6进3的变化有问题：

第53着有误！红应弃兵！

试演如下：

仍是红胜？

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另外：关于“将重复和无用着法去除”的问题，

我认为作为“狗娃闹春”，其神似狗，其着之趣在于“重复和无用着法”的黑车与红兵的胡闹瞎闹，正由此照显“狗娃闹春”的热闹！

[ “狗娃闹春”的最简着法已介绍，但二图有点问题，我一直未更正]

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最后，请教一个问题：11楼的结尾部分，会不会出现“左（右）卒封江”的必胜局面？

[因为〈少子百局谱〉未带在身上]

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-13 21:18:13编辑过]

hzsjy

17楼的着法是黑胜,还要黑改变着法?

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-13 20:52:53编辑过]

hzsjy

上面引用"小车马"的着法,如第52着黑改走炮4平5会怎样?

hzsjy

以下是引用hzsjy在2006-3-13 21:01:00的发言：
上面引用"小车马"的着法,如第52着黑改走炮4平5会怎样?

不好意思意思,这样要输.

凌云子

以下是引用hzsjy在2006-3-13 21:01:00的发言：
上面引用"小车马"的着法,如第52着黑改走炮4平5会怎样?

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hzsjy

第5着车吃象即胜!

但17楼的着法是否成立?如成立就是黑胜局了!

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-3-13 21:56:40编辑过]

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以下是引用hzsjy在2006-3-13 18:47:00的发言：
好棋!
有否以下着法?

瑞犬迎春(未知)

引用小车马的发言：“17楼的变着13楼已经有演示，红方不用走兵五平六应该可胜。”

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hzsjy

以下是引用hzsjy在2006-3-13 19:08:00的发言：
13楼黑是车6进3,17楼是黑车6进2.不一样.

hzsjy

今天就到这儿了!