双飞蝴蝶和丹凤朝阳混合品

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-9-13 08:31:31

中秋节弄些开胃菜

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zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-9-13 09:13:56

胡乱摆了下好像是和棋： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7099999939999999675066059999999920994299409999999999990637771848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]双飞蝴蝶和丹凤朝阳混合品[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]667[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]某江湖棋人摆出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]5058426067473747706040416020473766464858394937382027384849395859272477672444415144245141244441514424[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]502042607060404167473747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_2_2]404167371828707141407121[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_2_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_3]6737484939381828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_4]202458482434182834372829[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_4][DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1][DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_29_8]464936371424413124343747[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_29_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_9]20235848495977672343413143333141333848385958061605041626041426364645364614244647[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_9][DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_10]77782747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_10][DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]黑无杀，红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_11]58484959383927771828773728383736060736370708373508180504[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_11][DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_12]67574640[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_12][DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_5]77672747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_5][DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16][DhtmlXQ_comment25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment25] [/DhtmlXQ]

会心斋 · 发表于 2011-9-13 14:35:19

黑势好像过强，第7回合黑可卒2平3？

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-9-13 18:35:29

回张先生，第7回合卒2平3，红有车七平五解杀还杀，黑崩溃。

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-9-13 18:38:08

哦不对，黑可走将5平4，那么有棋规问题。

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-9-13 18:44:57

按张先生走法可能黑胜。摆此局的人说这局和棋。但江湖棋人摆的很多棋都按“地摊规则”（只禁长将和明长捉），不符现行棋规问题也有可能。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7099999939999999675066059999999920994299409999999999990637771848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]双飞蝴蝶和丹凤朝阳混合品[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]667[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]某江湖棋人摆出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]50584260674737477060404160204737664648583949373820271828274741314737314137474131473731413747[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]502042607060404167473747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_2_2]404167371828707141407121[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_2_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_3]6737484939381828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_4]202458482434182834372829[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_29_8]464936371424413124343747[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_29_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_9]20235848495977672343413143333141333848385958061605041626041426364645364614244647[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_10]77782747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]黑无杀，红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_27] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_6]384849395859272477672444415144245141244441514424[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_6][DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_11]58484959383927771828773728383736060736370708373508180504[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_12]67574640[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_5]77672747[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_16_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment23]红一将一杀，黑一杀一闲。按现行棋规红方应该变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23][DhtmlXQ_comment14]张云川先生指出这样红难办[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [/DhtmlXQ]

667 · 发表于 2011-9-13 19:53:25

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[DhtmlXQ_comment13]要着如退七则黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]一将一闲和[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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会心斋 · 发表于 2011-9-13 20:10:04

6楼第8回合黑方似可卒8平7.

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-9-14 07:56:34

恩，这局确实黑可以不用棋规取胜。泓弈的残局棋缘棋友给出另一种简明胜法： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]7099999939999999675066059999999920994299409999999999990637771848[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]双飞蝴蝶和丹凤朝阳混合品[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_author]667[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_type]江湖排局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_group]散局[/DhtmlXQ_group] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]5058426067473747706040416020473766464858394937382027384849391819468677788689787989867969050469598646061604141617272517181424182825284151243419292829594946495859[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]502042607060404167473747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_2_2]404167371828707141407121[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_2_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_3]6737484939381828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_5_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_4]202458482434182834372829[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_11_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_29_8]464936371424413124343747[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_29_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_9]20235848495977672343413143333141333848385958061605041626041426364645364614244647[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_10]77782747[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_16_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_11]58484959383927771828773728383736060736370708373508180504[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_12]67574640[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_22_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_6]5859272477672444415144245141244441514424[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_5]77672747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_16_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_2] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]黑无杀，红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]某江湖棋人摆出。||||残局棋缘给出黑胜走法：此局在一年多前在是视娱乐平台研究过，原摆法兵已过河，第八回合卒2进1更精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [/DhtmlXQ]

会心斋 · 发表于 2011-9-14 08:48:26

9楼第9回合红方试试改走炮五平三

一招惊心 · 发表于 2011-9-14 09:49:53

红三路炮摆的阴险呀。

zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-9-15 02:00:27

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zhiqihuang · 发表于 2011-9-15 02:07:17

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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]黑无杀，红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15_25]此时如走兵就输了[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_25]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_17]张云川先生提出这样的应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_17]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-9-15 13:53:11

也可這樣

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]某江湖棋人摆出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]黑无杀，红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_25]此时如走兵就输了[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]张云川先生认为这样红不好走[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_17]张云川先生提出这样的应法[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_17]
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古婺 · 发表于 2011-9-15 16:41:35

13楼,14楼, 关于第7回合车七退七后黑胜的着法,都不精确! 好好体会11楼一招惊心的"阴险"的提示,

一招惊心!

古婺 · 发表于 2011-9-15 16:50:43

我去掉边兵和边卒,

虽然复杂性少了, 盘面和着法更加紧凑, 在江湖棋摊上也更容易吸引人:
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-9-15 19:13:28

回复 15# 古婺

不太明白古婺兄的意思,那麼直到第7回合紅黑雙方是正確還是錯誤呢?

聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-9-15 19:50:22

是說黑這樣比較快嗎?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]黑无杀，红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_37]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_25]此时如走兵就输了[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_14]张云川先生认为这样红不好走[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_14]
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古婺 · 发表于 2011-9-15 20:45:31

本帖最后由古婺于 2011-9-15 20:54 编辑

是的，18楼正确了！若红车七退七，黑可以按18楼直接走卒8平7攻击而胜，其他走法都比较缓慢；导致这一胜法是因为红三路炮的位置，若红炮位置高一点，黑就不能这样胜了。所以我说细细体会一下一招惊心的提示

，他是高手啊！！本局黑胜无异议，按我16楼的改图能和。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-9-16 14:20:58

回复 16# 古婺

這樣嗎

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会心斋 · 发表于 2011-9-16 14:36:30

我感觉在1楼图式的基础上删黑方边卒而保留红方边兵更好些（同时从棋图美观的角度考虑，红边兵也可再调整位置，例如后移一格）。

古婺 · 发表于 2011-9-16 15:28:09

本帖最后由古婺于 2011-9-16 16:26 编辑

回20楼联兄: 主要着法没问题, 变着中还有小问题: 第7回合变2卒4平5中的第8回合: 变2(卒2进1) 和变3(卒8平7)应该都是红胜吧.

回21楼张兄: 这个提议也不错, 加个红边兵也比较"阴险",

, 引诱红方进攻, 但黑可续走卒8平7再平6到位后, 黑可胜.

聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-9-16 19:27:47

嗯,把那兩變修正一下

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-9-16 19:43:50

回复 23# 聨吟客

再修正

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古婺 · 发表于 2011-9-16 20:33:38

增设一个红兵，多一个黑胜的圈套：

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会心斋 · 发表于 2011-9-17 08:23:21

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一不做二不休，再加一个兵
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会心斋 · 发表于 2011-9-17 20:30:43

本帖最后由会心斋于 2011-9-17 21:31 编辑

16楼图式第6回合黑方卒8平7怎样走比较精确？
哦，这样
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2011-9-18 10:59:11

回复 25# 古婺

兵好像可走一步(只能走一步)

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淡雨随风 · 发表于 2011-9-19 14:25:03

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会心斋 · 发表于 2011-9-19 14:38:31

29楼第2个图，第8回合，黑方卒7平6，黑胜。

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