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标题: 排局研究------一则有趣的排局“三进山城” [打印本页]

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-4-11 16:55
标题: 排局研究------一则有趣的排局“三进山城”
以前在别的网站看过一个排局，无着法，我研究了一下，发现挺有趣，于是我又对其做了改拟，如下所示，红先胜。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]王甸冰[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9968875739999977994167209999999979699950409999788947990919889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]王甸冰[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ] 我只保留了改拟局，忘记了原局。有哪位棋友知道原局图式、作者和着法。这局棋确实很有趣，请有兴趣的棋友能否再对其改进一下。

作者: 纹枰老妖 时间: 2014-4-12 20:18
仔细看了一下，取胜思路大概是，红炮沉底以后，想法用士或者帅沉到四路底线蹩马腿，然后红相什么的可以从容腾挪最后取胜。因为我感觉双马造不成杀势，轻易出来只会是纵虎出山

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-4-13 11:24
仔细看了一下，取胜思路大概是，红炮沉底以后，想法用士或者帅沉到四路底线蹩马腿，然后红相什么的可以从容 ...[/quote] 费了好大的劲，好不容易找到了原局，发帖者所贴出的动态棋盘着法好像不是最佳着法。

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-13 11:50
試解

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-13 12:10
修正變著 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9968875739999977994167209999999979699950409999788947990919889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]王甸冰[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]王甸冰[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6747404147491929393809192030190987650919654741514959514147251909250709195748415130405141405041515040514140304151383751415949415148592939494851416847415148683949475551415543414268484252775669575664[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_3]504148574152384829394847394959586948574852417756415256645241645251524857[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_4]4919514119093949072949590959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_5]394937474959485859497756[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment35]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment35] [DhtmlXQ_comment39]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment39] [DhtmlXQ_comment49]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment49] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1]414230405041594942524859524249484252383752426847425248685242475529395543394968484252775669575664[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_43]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41][DhtmlXQ_comment4_35]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_35] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-13 12:43
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-13 13:35
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-4-13 14:26
[/quote] 我觉得改拟局可能有问题，但又没有记录原局，所以想用改拟局向棋友们找回原局，也顺便请棋友们验证一下改拟局。我不知原局局名和作者。看过你以上着对改拟局所列着法，竟然有那么多变着，显得麻烦复杂，不是我和原作者所期望的。我期望的着法： 1，先用炮堵住黑马，困住黑方强子。 2，炮和士换位，用士堵住黑马。 3，马和炮换位，用炮堵住黑马，红进马，马和兵禁黑士和黑将，逼黑送卒于相口（卒在1路和2路，红相在九路），以求有闲棋可走。 4，炮和马换位，用炮打掉黑底卒。 5，马和炮换位，再次进马，马和兵再次禁黑士和黑将，红胜。实际上，原局马炮只需换位两次即可【猜测原作者期望换位三次】，改拟局要求士炮换位一次，马炮换位三次。如何改拟，替原作者实现目的？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-14 10:04
其實我覺得不錯的局耶

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-14 10:18
補充變著

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-18 16:55
越研究越有意思

[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9968875739999977994167209999999979699950409999788947990919889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]王甸冰[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]王甸冰[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]674740414749192939380919203019098765091965474151495951414725190925070919574841423040504159494252485952424948425238375242684742524868524247554132373842414050414255364241361741420729424129074142170542410526413126473141684841514768515038395040484940414919414019184041184841513938515038375051374751500725324148415040414340304333303147373132250732313332313032313040312140412128414028484041684741514868[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_3]504148574152384829394847394959586948574852417756415256645241645251524857[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_22_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_35_4]4919514119093949072949590959[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_35_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_36_5]394937474959485859497756[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_36_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1]415130405141405041515040514140304151383751415949415148592939494851416847415148683949475549593747515268587857553457767756765534557977567769575534577677567655345589695534[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_35]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_35] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_42_2]51415543414268484252775669575664[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_42_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_44_7]5949685878575563[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_44_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_47] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_48_8]5745775669575664[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_48_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_53]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_55] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_46_9]6957553457767756765534557866556366585644[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_46_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_52_10]7857556379785644[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_52_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]這步可拖延,紅殺法也更精彩 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_52_11]6957556379785644[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_52_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_52_6]79785668[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_52_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_45] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_47] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_44_13]66585644[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_44_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]79785644[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]293955634252374739497756786668586957474866585644[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment36]這樣似頑強,紅可能須先消滅底卒\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment36] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_15]4142264742416848413147683141383941424849424149194142191842411848413150403141684741314868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_73]以下馬破單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_73] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_59] [DhtmlXQ_move_18_56_16]3031554331416848[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_56_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_65]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_65] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_73]以下馬破單士紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_73] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_77]以下馬破單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_77] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_81]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_81] [DhtmlXQ_move_23_68_19]413150403141684741314868[/DhtmlXQ_move_23_68_19] [DhtmlXQ_move_16_58_21]31306860[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_58_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_59] [DhtmlXQ_move_23_74_20]32413747515248585251474841327756[/DhtmlXQ_move_23_74_20] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_22]291957484142304050415949425248595242494842523837524268474252486841324755[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_18_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_35]以下馬禁單士,黑必棄卒,紅勝定,參考主變紅得一卒後的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment56]這樣可吃兵,但也難逃敗局![/DhtmlXQ_comment56][DhtmlXQ_comment25_89]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_89] [DhtmlXQ_move_25_86_24]40503837505137475150485850517756[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_86_24][DhtmlXQ_comment24_93]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_93] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_87]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_87] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_71]以下馬禁單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_71][DhtmlXQ_comment99]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment99] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_101]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_101] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_17]190938390919475531415543414268484252775678575664[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_18]313047551909554309196860[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_18] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_56_23]4131476831413839413148493141491941421918424118484151506051523938525138375141684741314868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_56_23] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_68_25]4131393831303837303148383130383230313738313032313040315140415158414058484041684741514868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_68_25] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_76_26]505148583241775641525664524164525152685678575664[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_76_26] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_68_28]4140684740504868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_68_28] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_96_27]405037475051485851507756[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_96_27] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-18 17:06
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[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9968875739999977994167209999999979699950409999788947990919889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]王甸冰[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]王甸冰[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1]415130405141405041515040514140304151383751415949415148592939494851416847415148683949475549593747515268587857553457767756765534557977567769575534577677567655345589695534[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_35]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_42_2]51415543414268484252775669575664[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_42_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_44_7]5949685878575563[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_44_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_48_8]5745775669575664[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_48_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_53]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_55]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_46_9]6957553457767756765534557866556366585644[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_46_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_52_10]7857556379785644[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_52_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]這步可拖延,紅殺法也更精彩 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_52_11]6957556379785644[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_52_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_1_52_6]79785668[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_52_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_44_13]66585644[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_44_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]79785644[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_46_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]293955634252374739497756786668586957474866585644[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_36_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]這樣似頑強,紅可能須先消滅底卒\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_15]4142264742416848413147683141383941424849424149194142191842411848413150403141684741314868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_52_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_73]以下馬破單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_59]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_56_16]3031554331416848[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_56_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_65]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_73]以下馬破單士紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_77]以下馬破單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_81]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_81]
[DhtmlXQ_move_23_68_19]413150403141684741314868[/DhtmlXQ_move_23_68_19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_16_58_21]31306860[/DhtmlXQ_move_16_58_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_59]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_35]以下馬禁單士,黑必棄卒,紅勝定,參考主變紅得一卒後的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment56]這樣可吃兵,但也難逃敗局![/DhtmlXQ_comment56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_89]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_89]
[DhtmlXQ_move_25_86_24]40503837505137475150485850517756[/DhtmlXQ_move_25_86_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_93]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_87]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_71]以下馬禁單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_99]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_101]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_101]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_68_25]4131393831303837303148383130383230313738313032313040315140415158414058484041684741514868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_68_25]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_76_26]505148583241775641525664524164525152685678575664[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_76_26]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_68_28]4140684740504868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_68_28]
[DhtmlXQ_move_29_96_27]405037475051485851507756[/DhtmlXQ_move_29_96_27]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_83_29]47373132250732313332313032313040312140412128414028484041684741514868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_83_29][DhtmlXQ_comment89]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment89][DhtmlXQ_comment83]這樣速勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment83]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_80_30]40414737414043484041684741514868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_80_30][DhtmlXQ_comment30_87]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_87]
[DhtmlXQ_move_30_84_31]405037475051485851507756[/DhtmlXQ_move_30_84_31][DhtmlXQ_comment31_89]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_89]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-18 17:18
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[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9968875739999977994167209999999979699950409999788947990919889999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]!![/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_41]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_47]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_53]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_55]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_55]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]這步可拖延,紅殺法也更精彩 o[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment36]這樣似頑強,紅可能須先消滅底卒\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment32_73]以下馬破單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_59]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment16_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_65]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_73]以下馬破單士紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_77]以下馬破單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_81]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_81]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment21_59]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_59]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment22_35]以下馬禁單士,黑必棄卒,紅勝定,參考主變紅得一卒後的走法o[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_56]這樣可吃兵,但也難逃敗局![/DhtmlXQ_comment15_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_89]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_89]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment24_93]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_93]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_87]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_87]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_71]以下馬禁單士紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_99]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_99]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_101]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_101]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment15_89]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_89]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_83]這樣速勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_83]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment30_87]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_87]
[DhtmlXQ_move_30_84_31]405037475051485851507756[/DhtmlXQ_move_30_84_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_89]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_89]
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作者: hzsjy 时间: 2014-4-18 19:18
本帖最后由 hzsjy 于 2014-4-18 19:40 编辑

以上各楼：
第6回合黑走马7退5如何？
所以在第4回合红应走炮五平四！

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-4-19 00:32

hzsjy 发表于 2014-4-18 19:18
以上各楼：
第6回合黑走马7退5如何？
所以在第4回合红应走炮五平四！

联吟客的着法有问题。

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-4-19 00:36

聨吟客发表于 2014-4-18 17:18

第2步黑应走将5平6较顽强，可防止红方士四退五，再士五退四，直接用士堵住黑马。

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-4-19 01:22
本帖最后由迟暮寒士于 2014-4-19 01:27 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-4-18 17:18

3#的动态棋盘图片不方便阅读，现将其编辑成东萍动态棋盘如下，着法可能是发帖者编辑的。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment65]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment65]
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   在上面着法中，红方第26步走马三进五，打算第三次马炮换位。实际上马炮不用换位也可，红方可以中帅中炮压黑将，黑欠行只有将5平4离开中路。之后红中帅六路炮，进二路马做炮架，也胜。
   这局棋，原作者的意图是要马炮多次换位，但未能完全实现，我的改拟局中，给黑方增加一个黑士，以便迫使红方必须第三次马炮换位。
   我的改拟局不太理想。

作者: 667 时间: 2014-4-19 11:18
http://www.dpxq.com/magzine/02_sqyq_2.html

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-19 19:14
不好意思,在下最近精神不佳錯誤頗多,感謝各位指正,看來此局是否紅勝還須重新研究

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-20 02:55
茲研究原局好像有速勝法

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2014-4-20 03:44
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-5-10 09:14

667 发表于 2014-4-19 11:18
http://www.dpxq.com/magzine/02_sqyq_2.html

感谢667提供原局。

以下是根据667提供的原局链接所得到的原局及原局着法：
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[DhtmlXQ_comment79]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]以下与主着法雷同，红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_11]
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-5-10 10:12

667 发表于 2014-4-19 11:18
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給原局添加两处变着：
第10步，给黑方添加卒2平1变着，这样黑方比较顽强，可以缓输两步。
第31步，给红方添加炮五进七变着，这样红方可以速胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10] 黑将如不速平中，则红帅六平五占中后有炮五平四，在马二进四，红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]如卒２平３？则马八退七，以下可直接跃马擒孤将，红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_61] 添加炮五进七变着。|| 此变中，不必马炮换位，直接用炮压将，红可以速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_71]红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_20] 添加卒2平1变着。|| 黑方走卒2平1，再卒3平2，比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_57] 原着在第27步炮打底卒，此变第29步炮打底卒。所以黑方此变比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]以下与主着法雷同，红速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_11]
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2014-5-11 19:50
我这样改拟了一下

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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-5-12 00:04

邢春波发表于 2014-5-11 19:50
我这样改拟了一下

我原先也想给黑方加两个士，但又拿不准红方是否可胜，所以就只加了一个士。
既然楼上加了两个士，如此看来，红方是可以胜的了。

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-5-12 00:11

聨吟客发表于 2014-4-20 03:44

本以为是条理清晰，着法洁净的一则排局。没想到被你挖掘出很多变着，是问题变得复杂了，现在搞得我都没有主张了。

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-5-26 04:07
本帖最后由迟暮寒士于 2014-5-26 04:14 编辑

邢春波发表于 2014-5-11 19:50
我这样改拟了一下

你改的棋局，我也不知红方能不能胜。
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还有，我改的棋局（1#）被联吟客走出很多着法，也不知是否成立？

作者: 承云医疾 时间: 2014-5-26 06:53
本帖最后由承云医疾于 2014-5-26 07:02 编辑

原局是谈金仪先生早年作品，最早刊《百花齐放象棋谱》第8集以前中，在《棋友》杂志举办第一届全国象棋排局赛中获得第16名，《排局天地》第1集和《象棋排局技巧》（辽宁科学技术出版社）刊载。18 楼667先生有完整链接
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后来作者进行了修改，刊《百花齐放象棋谱》第23集：
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2014-5-26 20:29

迟暮寒士发表于 2014-5-26 04:07
你改的棋局，我也不知红方能不能胜。

王老弟又在故弄玄虚，红接走炮四进八打将，再士五退四不就行了吗。

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-6-29 09:55

承云医疾发表于 2014-5-26 06:53
原局是谈金仪先生早年作品，最早刊《百花齐放象棋谱》第8集以前中，在《棋友》杂志举办第一届全国象棋排局赛 ...

每贴出一个棋局，高老师都知道其出处来源，看来高老师掌握了大量有关象棋排局方面的资料。不过，在你贴出的修改局中，怎么只给黑方增加了双士和双象，红方却原封未动，一定是高老师疏忽发错了吧。

作者: 承云医疾 时间: 2014-6-29 13:34

迟暮寒士发表于 2014-6-29 09:55
每贴出一个棋局，高老师都知道其出处来源，看来高老师掌握了大量有关象棋排局方面的资料。不过， ...

没有发错--我又看了一下，《百花23》中就是这样。

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-7-17 03:28

承云医疾发表于 2014-6-29 13:34
没有发错--我又看了一下，《百花23》中就是这样。

我开始没仔细看，三路红马改成了红炮，9路黑车改成了黑卒。作者这样一改，味道全变了，根本不是对原局的修改。改后的着法一定是复杂多变，完全没有了原局的趣味。

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