图形局——对称形排局

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图形局——对称形排局

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[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]九秋风露（7201）/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9910999949999970992767999999999908179999419999778899994599999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]九秋风露（7201）/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

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该局拟于2012年5月，当时用周软运行不出结果，现在新版周软也运行不出结果，不知道自己是否有思维盲点？

★星海★

周软测不出，我的着法： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9910999949999970992767999999999908179999419999778899994599999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]九秋风露（7201）/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]九秋风露（7201）/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6747455570624142624355454324453524454232455332425361423261403242402142324737354521333242335442325435324235234241102241512230515030425040426140416153415153325141374745353244354544634555234255454234413147373141342241312210313063513040374745355143354543314535315240415244415144635141102241402243354543624030634230404223453562433545435145352342354542304535272040415143354530224142223442414324455534224142224355454364453564454252453352512443515243355251354351504362504033414030412230316243313243513242224342522050[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1]50514263514137474555234255454234413147373141342241312210313063513040374745355143354543314535315240415244415144635141102241402243354543624030634230404223453562433545435145352342354542304535272040415143354530224142223442414324455534224142224355454364453564454252453352512443515243355251354351504362504033414030412230316243313243513242224342522050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_34_1] [/DhtmlXQ]

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[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]九秋风露（7201）/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9910999949999970992767999999999908179999419999778899994599999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] 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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_84]注解[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_84] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_92]下接主变第51回合红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_92] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_78]下接主变第44回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_70]下接主变第48回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_70] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_83]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_83] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_79]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_79] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_58]下接主变第46回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment14_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_69] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_62]下接主变第32回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_65]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_65] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_56]下接主变第33回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]下接主变第24回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_38]下接主变第50回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_30]见注解①，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_30] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_34]下接主变第48回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_27]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_22]下接主变第48回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment25_20]下接主变第51回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment26_14]下接主变第48回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment27_15]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_8]下接主变第13回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_6]下接主变第40回合，红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_6] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

sdj

俊岭兄：这样60。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]九秋风露（6001）/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9910999949999970992767999999999907179999419999778799993845589999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]67474555706241426243554543244535244542324553324253614232614032424021423247373545213332423354423254353242352342411022415122305150304250404261404161534151533251502342505142635141322041312012313012333040374740506342504042234555335240415244554544634535234235454234413147373141342241312210313063513040374745355143354543314535315240415244415144635141102241402243354543514535634235454223453551433545433145552342554542214030473730403152404121334142374745355244354544634232635132313352[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]九秋风露（6001）/孙达军拟局[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment119]（红胜）[/DhtmlXQ_comment119] [DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]SDJ[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

★星海★

20回合将6进1正确。22回合后周软能测出来。

★星海★

俊岭兄：这样60。[/quote] 嗯，我验证了如果某些回合不按孙老师着法走，是速胜

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sdndsx

谢谢楼主分享！ 这样的帖子是我的最爱之一！ 我弱弱的提一点建议（可能不对），仅供参考。是不是可以叫作子对称型啊。因为图对称，子不对称的排局也有啊。 我一直喜欢子对称的排局，我曾经做过一个表格。把子对称的排局分为如下四种（可能还有）： 1 左右子对称 2 上下子对称 2 上下左右子对称 4 旋转子对称 先生的这几局属于1.

sdj

谢谢时老关注，客气了，以后就称呼我达军吧。对称形排局是前辈们的普遍称呼，我只是采纳，没有深入思考。谢谢您详细分析和独到的见解，学习了。

迟暮寒士

        达军老师一来到化工网，都给我们带来莫大的惊喜。
     
       我发现周软在运行时，也有随机性，不确定性。你用周软没有解开本局，我第一次用周软竟然一下子就解开了，好像用了33秒，确实是72步，可惜我没有记录着法。之后，我再想用周软破解时，却怎么也不行了。
        
        排拟和破解这样的连照胜排局，难度很大。红黑双方的路子很宽，让人迷惑其中。很难判定那一条道路是红方最快的取胜道路，同时也很难确定黑方最顽强的应法。

sdj

谢谢王兄！给我吃了定心丸。该局困惑了将近两年多时间，目前想用该局，所以公开请各位良师益友检验。