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标题: 《江湖排局集成》第57页，炮打中营副图1第二路走法研讨 [打印本页]

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-11-9 15:30
标题: 《江湖排局集成》第57页，炮打中营副图1第二路走法研讨
书中第57页，注5，红有炮四平五、炮四平七两路走法皆败。（研究认为，炮四平七一路可以和棋）

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局原载《湖涯集象棋谱》第43局，原谱着法既短又欠妥，现修正如下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]杨、陶《象棋古谱残局诠正大全》中、王首成白宏宽新出版《湖涯集象棋谱详解》中，此步走车5退4，和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]副图1， 57页注5[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]红炮遮将解杀，正着。如改走帅五进一，则车2进1，帅五退一，车2退5，下着红方有两路走法均败。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27]书中第57页，注5，红有炮四平五、炮四平七两路走法皆败。（研究认为，炮四平七一路可以和棋）[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36]以下红有两法：[/DhtmlXQ_comment36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]书中此步有两种走法，皆败。诠正着法走炮七进一可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]？劣败。应炮七进一。可和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_56]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_73]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_52]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_8]这步棋，原谱着法卒8平7，则帅四进一，车5退1，车四平三，车5进7，车三进六，以后黑方下风求和。现在改走黑车直接去兵，比较主动[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_10]
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主变第12回合，帅五进一变，炮四平七走法，书中认为黑胜，我研究认为可和。

最后此图是车炮对车卒互斗，很有研究价值。

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-11-10 11:33
车炮对车卒互斗，确实很有研究价值，实战常用。下图是第10回合后的局面，第11步红改走炮四平五，好像可以简单速和。不知是否正确。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]6299999958999999995299129999999916999999319999999999997899999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]52421612626131304246[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1]5848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]新变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_comment5] 红炮占据[五四]位置不动，再用横车守炮，简单和定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_1]楼主原着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_1] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-11-10 21:18
正确，红还有几处速和着法。但车炮兵对车卒，主动求和有些示弱。

作者: 一卒擎天 时间: 2014-11-10 21:52
正确，红还有几处速和着法。但车炮兵对车卒，主动求和有些示弱。[/quote] 江湖棋摊红速和是上策！和就胜！棋软不适江湖排局！

作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-11-11 09:27
“红方示弱”？赵弟老师何出此言？上面的局面，红帅危在旦夕，红兵已是死定，以下必然形成车炮对车卒的局面。黑方杀势逼人，红方理应采取最有效的防守着法。如果说“守和”、“速和”是红方示弱的表现，红方并没有兑子求和，只是自救而已，红炮依然还在，红车依然还在，红方在保全老帅性命安全之后，再可以继续与黑方走下去，哪怕走到明天、走到后天，等待黑方出现盲棋。在和别人下棋的时候，可不要有这样的思维方式。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2015-5-18 00:37
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-18 10:41
再添一个黑底卒或黑一路象能成立吗？[/quote] 这样，黑可以胜到

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-18 11:45
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-18 12:33
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作者: 邢春波 时间: 2015-5-20 21:41
5回合红可改走车四平二

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-21 00:44
5回合红可改走车四平二[/quote] 那样，黑可胜！

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-21 00:47
8#红酒的改局好像是红胜局，不敢确定，很复杂，目前还不能找到明确的修改方案，又要保持原局走法，又要达到，红黑任选的水平。

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-21 11:29
标题: 本局为炮卫中营最新红酒改，结论未知，请大家拆解定论！
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-21 12:39
呵呵呵,紅酒兄堅持走自己的路,精神令人敬佩

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2015-5-21 21:26

一杯红酒发表于 2015-5-21 00:44
那样，黑可胜！

我说的是1楼

作者: bh22wsc 时间: 2015-5-21 22:03
很多棋局原来是不错的，改完之后就一点味道没有了。可以说句实话，本论坛真正懂得什么是江湖局的人太少了。十个人中九个都什么也不懂。

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-22 01:12
标题: 本局为炮卫中营最新红酒改，结论未知，请大家拆解定论！
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9]红如车四平二，可能黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
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作者: 喜上眉梢 时间: 2015-5-22 02:25

一杯红酒发表于 2015-5-21 00:47
8#红酒的改局好像是红胜局，不敢确定，很复杂，目前还不能找到明确的修改方案，又要保持原局走法，又要达到 ...

9楼(即8楼)第11回合黑走车5退3,应属和局.

作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-22 10:04
标题: 感谢喜上眉梢先生指导！
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-5-26 13:27 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]喜上眉梢提示的招法！[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-23 11:23

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-24 17:10
今天我去泓弈網逛,看到沈通聲先生改了好多局此局的類局,呵呵呵呵呵呵...................................

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-25 11:29
古譜還有一局姊妹局

,一起複習一下吧

　
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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-25 13:11
标题: 感谢喜上眉梢先生指导！
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-5-26 13:28 编辑

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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-25 14:53
供參考

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-26 00:43
标题: 感谢喜上眉梢先生指导！
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-5-26 13:29 编辑

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作者: 一杯红酒 时间: 2015-5-26 11:07
本帖最后由一杯红酒于 2015-5-26 13:29 编辑

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作者: 喜上眉梢 时间: 2015-5-26 17:52
本帖最后由喜上眉梢于 2015-5-26 18:07 编辑

一杯红酒发表于 2015-5-25 13:11

23楼第17回合黑车2平4是败着（19楼也走此败着）。第21回合黑如卒1平2，兵六进一，也红胜。第22回合红直接车三退一可胜。另外第12回合黑如卒1平2，兵八平七，车5平1，以下红走炮五退三、炮五退四均和。
19楼第15回合黑如将5进1，则红多了车三平六的选择，也和。第16回合红直接车三退五较好（走炮五进五也和），也和。
本局第11回合黑走车5退3应是和局，别的走法黑是否可胜，我尚不知。
我的看法未必正确，可再探讨。

作者: yuntao云涛 时间: 2015-5-26 23:52
本帖最后由 yuntao云涛于 2015-5-27 16:56 编辑

一杯红酒发表于 2015-5-21 00:44
那样，黑可胜！

6楼黑是怎么胜的？

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-27 13:48
還可添一枚角卒

作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2015-5-27 14:03
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