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[排局诠正] 三进山城 谈金仪

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发表于 2019-10-6 19:04:16 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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发表于 2019-10-7 11:01:26 | 显示全部楼层
搜索到的走法怎麼局名被改了?呵呵
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发表于 2019-10-7 11:08:40 | 显示全部楼层
先改回局名還有修正35回合
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发表于 2019-10-7 14:28:21 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-8 09:02:09 | 显示全部楼层
不用特意去吃那2个底卒,直接杀棋。
发表于 2019-10-8 15:40:58 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2019-10-8 15:49:01 | 显示全部楼层
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_77]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_77]
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发表于 2019-10-8 16:10:14 | 显示全部楼层
可惜難以實現作者的原意
有可能修改的嗎
发表于 2019-10-8 16:23:44 | 显示全部楼层
二路紅馬改炮會如何??
呵呵, 尚未詳研...........
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发表于 2019-10-8 16:31:59 | 显示全部楼层
樓上好像勝法也差不多
可能更快
呵呵
发表于 2019-10-8 23:58:01 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2019-10-9 00:01 编辑

这局作品好象是第几?届的排局得奖作品。时代进步了,棋软带动了象棋排局的发展。现代排局更加精巧、更加大气、更加实用。高手真的在民间,象余先生这么高水平的审局人太少了,赞一个。人脑作局有很大的局限性,容易形成惯性思维,自认为这样走下去是正确的。所以错漏之处较多。
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-9 07:17:54 | 显示全部楼层
高原红 发表于 2019-10-8 23:58
这局作品好象是第几?届的排局得奖作品。时代进步了,棋软带动了象棋排局的发展。现代排局更加精巧、更加大 ...

偶然翻阅东萍象棋网络杂志看到,是创刊号有奖征答局,是否排局得奖作品不清楚。
发表于 2019-10-9 15:51:40 | 显示全部楼层
這樣不知會如何

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发表于 2019-10-9 16:14:02 | 显示全部楼层
樓上好像勝不了
呵呵
此局太難修改

发表于 2019-10-9 16:21:31 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2019-10-9 16:23 编辑

這樣會如何
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发表于 2019-10-9 16:32:55 | 显示全部楼层
還是勝不了
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-10 09:37:40 | 显示全部楼层
高原红 发表于 2019-10-8 23:58
这局作品好象是第几?届的排局得奖作品。时代进步了,棋软带动了象棋排局的发展。现代排局更加精巧、更加大 ...

查了一下,《三进山城》局是《棋友》杂志举办的首届象棋排局大赛获奖作品。
第一名作品(似乎也可速胜)

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[DhtmlXQ_comment69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_71]红亦胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_52]黑得车胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]以下着法同主着法,红快两步胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_61]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]红亦速胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_40]两打一还打,红不变作负,但红变亦负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_53]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_45]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_49]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_44]再进一得车胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_45]再进二胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_24]兑车后,黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_17]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]棋友排局研究会第一届全国象棋排局比赛第一名获奖局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_25]这是后来有人诠正的速胜走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_47]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_45]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_45]
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发表于 2019-10-10 10:48:30 | 显示全部楼层
这局棋可速胜。我记得过后发现了速胜着法。有棋友诠证着法在哪本棋刊中已记不到了。
发表于 2019-10-10 12:18:58 | 显示全部楼层
yjr123 发表于 2019-10-10 09:37
查了一下,《三进山城》局是《棋友》杂志举办的首届象棋排局大赛获奖作品。
第一名作品(似乎也可速胜) ...

余老师,那些排局作品好像只能找到第一名的
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-10 14:23:15 | 显示全部楼层
湖艓 发表于 2019-10-10 12:18
余老师,那些排局作品好像只能找到第一名的

石毅主编的《象棋排局技巧》一书中有获奖作品选25局
发表于 2019-10-10 14:43:10 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-10 16:10:21 | 显示全部楼层
湖艓 发表于 2019-10-10 12:18
余老师,那些排局作品好像只能找到第一名的

这局是第三名,以我的欣赏水平,这局是该届第一名。

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yjr123 发表于 2019-10-10 16:10
这局是第三名,以我的欣赏水平,这局是该届第一名。

网传万里长征局就是这个呀!
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-11 07:29:02 | 显示全部楼层
首届象棋排局赛获奖作品选

首届象棋排局赛获奖作品选.pdf (933.42 KB, 下载次数: 7)
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yjr123 发表于 2019-10-11 07:29
首届象棋排局赛获奖作品选

好像有部分老作品 却是百花齐放啊!
发表于 2019-10-11 19:24:20 | 显示全部楼层
任太辰《宫底藏针》  pdf字糊了
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