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标题: 【自创】带杀解危 [打印本页]
作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-9-28 05:41
标题: 【自创】带杀解危
本帖最后由 剑影¤独步 于 2021-9-30 17:47 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]2021年9月28日创建||　　　　　　 星期二||2021年9月29日再次俢改，已解决一些问题及不够精彩的变化。||　　　　　　 星期三[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]平炮打车解危又带有杀着[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]带杀吃兵又解危[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]红胜||||黑无计可施[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]并非最强防守！只是不想走的太多佘，红怎么也防不住了，就没必要走太多余的走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_35]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]以攻待守||||||麻烦……||本来变招例的差不多了！可是按错键，给返回了…… 花了很多时间都浪费了[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-9-28 13:15
這樣嗎
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]再改进||增加了步数||解法基本一样||||2021年9月28日创建||　　　　　　 星期二[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-9-28 21:51
劍影兄

百２７投稿區討論三氣周瑜古局
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-9-29 00:59
聨吟客 发表于 2021-9-28 13:15
這樣嗎

删除了原修改的局面，发现原局面及原修改的局面也太好和，所以进行了再次修改，各种我不满意的变化都得到了解决。
作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-9-29 01:03
聨吟客 发表于 2021-9-28 21:51
劍影兄

百２７投稿區討論三氣周瑜古局

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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-9-29 01:12
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局载于《百局象棋谱》第5局名“三气周瑜”，《心武残编》第74局“钩衡驾马”，《神妙变化象棋谱》第34局“十八临潼”，《竹香斋象戏谱》三集第20局“三气横秋”，《渊深海阔象棋谱》第25局“三气周瑜”，图式稍有差异，古谱作为和局，现代各种著作陆续把该局诠正为黑胜局。经研究，该局可以走成正和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_35]||||黑炮若平移放中，可以在这线挡住黑炮，其它各线好象都有红兵挡住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_41]红中兵可以进吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_52]红犯规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]黑炮若不能平移再转到中路的话也只能进卒了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红炮在这线上下走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]这样黑退炮没法放中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_37]副图1[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]余俊瑞提出[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]改这步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]再走这步，这样似可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_73]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_60]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_51]红可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_65]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_62]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_59]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_58]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_40]以往讨论着法，和。||||这里我还列了黑各种各样的变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_68]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_38]黑改变走子顺序，或者说任意走一步试红应手。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_39]此时进中兵似可行。走其它反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_72]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]副图2||||以往在华工网中讨论时此步走卒4进1，最后成和。现黑高卒不再往下进，黑炮转至中路进攻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_108]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_110]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_110]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_104]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]这是一路和棋着法，红方思路是炮在右侧可随时退一二步防止黑高卒下来，似乎也成立。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_58]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-9-29 09:00
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局载于《百局象棋谱》第5局名“三气周瑜”，《心武残编》第74局“钩衡驾马”，《神妙变化象棋谱》第34局“十八临潼”，《竹香斋象戏谱》三集第20局“三气横秋”，《渊深海阔象棋谱》第25局“三气周瑜”，图式稍有差异，古谱作为和局，现代各种著作陆续把该局诠正为黑胜局。经研究，该局可以走成正和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_35]||||黑炮若平移放中，可以在这线挡住黑炮，其它各线好象都有红兵挡住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_41]红中兵可以进吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_52]红犯规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]黑炮若不能平移再转到中路的话也只能进卒了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红炮在这线上下走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]这样黑退炮没法放中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_37]副图1[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]余俊瑞提出[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]改这步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]再走这步，这样似可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_73]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_60]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_51]红可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_65]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_62]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_59]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_58]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_40]以往讨论着法，和。||||这里我还列了黑各种各样的变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_68]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_38]黑改变走子顺序，或者说任意走一步试红应手。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_39]此时进中兵似可行。走其它反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_72]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]副图2||||以往在华工网中讨论时此步走卒4进1，最后成和。现黑高卒不再往下进，黑炮转至中路进攻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_108]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_110]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_110]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_104]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_31]这是一路和棋着法，红方思路是炮在右侧可随时退一二步防止黑高卒下来，似乎也成立。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_63]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_58]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_50]应这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_52]应该是黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment31]这样看看[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-9-29 09:03
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局载于《百局象棋谱》第5局名“三气周瑜”，《心武残编》第74局“钩衡驾马”，《神妙变化象棋谱》第34局“十八临潼”，《竹香斋象戏谱》三集第20局“三气横秋”，《渊深海阔象棋谱》第25局“三气周瑜”，图式稍有差异，古谱作为和局，现代各种著作陆续把该局诠正为黑胜局。经研究，该局可以走成正和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-10-4 22:51
本帖最后由 剑影¤独步 于 2021-10-4 22:53 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2021-9-29 09:03

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]该局载于《百局象棋谱》第5局名“三气周瑜”，《心武残编》第74局“钩衡驾马”，《神妙变化象棋谱》第34局“十八临潼”，《竹香斋象戏谱》三集第20局“三气横秋”，《渊深海阔象棋谱》第25局“三气周瑜”，图式稍有差异，古谱作为和局，现代各种著作陆续把该局诠正为黑胜局。经研究，该局可以走成正和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_35]||||黑炮若平移放中，可以在这线挡住黑炮，其它各线好象都有红兵挡住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_41]红中兵可以进吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_52]红犯规。[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]黑炮若不能平移再转到中路的话也只能进卒了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]红炮在这线上下走闲。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]这样黑退炮没法放中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_37]副图1[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]余俊瑞提出[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]改这步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]再走这步，这样似可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_73]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_60]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_51]红可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_65]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_62]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_59]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_58]不变作和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_40]以往讨论着法，和。||||这里我还列了黑各种各样的变招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_68]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_66]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_38]黑改变走子顺序，或者说任意走一步试红应手。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_39]此时进中兵似可行。走其它反而不利。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_72]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]副图2||||以往在华工网中讨论时此步走卒4进1，最后成和。现黑高卒不再往下进，黑炮转至中路进攻。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_108]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_108]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_110]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_110]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_104]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_31]这是一路和棋着法，红方思路是炮在右侧可随时退一二步防止黑高卒下来，似乎也成立。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_63]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_58]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_58]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_50]应这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_52]应该是黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment55_31]这样看看||||（劣着）||||（推荐走兵五进一）[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_36]不能让中兵前进，否则易和[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]炮进一或兵三进一都差不多，就是说输的没太大区别。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_38]这就复杂了[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_39]正解[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_40]选择点多，比较复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]正着[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]只能动将才行！[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_45]如果双方不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_46]只能动将才行！[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_46]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment48_43]推荐[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_43]也可以[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_50]
[DhtmlXQ_move_41_49_42]33324636[/DhtmlXQ_move_41_49_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_52]有点差不多回到之前局面的意思，但经过转换红多了步炮在六路的先手[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_56]唯一正着||其它走法红可胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_65]劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_68]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_68]
[DhtmlXQ_move_45_67_44]45425859[/DhtmlXQ_move_45_67_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_76]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_67]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_67]
[DhtmlXQ_move_43_65_45]854536372547434445464445514140503130454146415848[/DhtmlXQ_move_43_65_45]
[DhtmlXQ_move_41_51_43]45353130433330403332596932316963615163434939244235854636394936378575[/DhtmlXQ_move_41_51_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_41_52_47]31304333[/DhtmlXQ_move_41_52_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_41_52_46]31328580[/DhtmlXQ_move_41_52_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_53]红大优||||太多变招了，有点不想解，复杂。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_53]红大优||||太多变招了，有点不想解，复杂。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_53]太多变招了，有点不想解，复杂。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_46]易和[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_46]
[DhtmlXQ_move_50_40_48]4030433330403332463632313637[/DhtmlXQ_move_50_40_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_40]推荐[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_43]易守和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_43]
[DhtmlXQ_move_50_42_49]46364540[/DhtmlXQ_move_50_42_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_52]易和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_55_38_50]364685454050433359693332504032424030423230403231696445446465[/DhtmlXQ_move_55_38_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_38]必胜之着[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_48]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]不管红怎么应对都有办法黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_42]大概这样赢[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]大概这样赢[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_51_43_52]888637388688584849593839[/DhtmlXQ_move_51_43_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_53_41_51]625240418878696060404043[/DhtmlXQ_move_53_41_51]
[DhtmlXQ_move_55_39_53]8588596962614050696666463747493946365848[/DhtmlXQ_move_55_39_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_55_41_54]86885969[/DhtmlXQ_move_55_41_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_42]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]推荐走兵五进一，待研究||炮一平五待研究||兵三进一不太好，待研究||帅六平五，基本已解出黑胜走法||估计这可能是黑胜局！太多变化了，复杂，只能慢慢研究下个大概。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-10-5 09:09
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第05局 三气周瑜 余俊瑞提出的变化[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]备注：||||[fen\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/4P4/9/2B6/3p4C/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]余20楼[/fen]||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p2C2/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]余21楼[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外，其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]注：余俊瑞21楼提出的变化。||||以下为原先拆解的变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]调整为这步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]这样应该可以了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]这样红方还是没有办法逼黑高卒走低。黑炮还是可退回放中路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]這樣似較好||如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_55]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]進卒||紅不好應付\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_55]||應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_65]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_64]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_66]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_54]||紅1將1殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_55]大陸規則紅需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]这路变化暂略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]和。见其它相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_37]炮在右侧守的话，，黑将在5或6路线区别不大。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法，和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]相五进七，卒３平４，炮五退二，炮６平９[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_40]相同局面，黑胜。||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K3c w - - 20 20]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_42][fen\u003D5k3/8c/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K4 w - - 22 21]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_45][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_49][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55][FEN\u003D5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_70]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_61]不變和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_75]||和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_73]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]一將一打象||亞規允許||大陸規則不允許[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_54]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]黑胜。||||||弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||再注：这时飞相有问题。黑卒3平4后不能炮退一守了。走炮一平二闲着可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_37]平炮走闲，等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]黑胜。红只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_47]和。[FEN\u003D5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment58_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_41]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_39]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_40]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_56]红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_55]亚规判和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]炮可先到中间将再移到左边。这样黑将无法走上，无边就不容易打死。||||分析中的第1种运炮至二路线的办法，第16回合先进帅，再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 11 16]1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN]||||和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_39]未拆解。应该黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路（炮在右侧还是可以退一守和的），致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_40]相同局面，黑胜。||||注解合并：||相同局面，黑胜。||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K3c w - - 20 20]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_41][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]飞相后，红炮不能居中将军了，会变成长杀。也不能退1防黑卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]注：余俊瑞提出的20楼着法。||||因原先和棋是其它变化，这后面前几年大概拆解了一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_36]刘宝友 2008年版象棋技战术与传统文化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_49]红违例负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_50]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_36]当时拆解的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_39][FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment91_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。以下黑有卒4进1的杀着，红以下只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]红炮将后回原位，黑还是卒4进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment98_54]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]余先生提出者樣頑強[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-10-5 10:39
聨吟客 发表于 2021-10-5 09:09
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]备注：||||[fen\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/4P4/9/2B6/3p4C/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]余20楼[/fen]||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p2C2/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]余21楼[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外，其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]注：余俊瑞21楼提出的变化。||||以下为原先拆解的变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]调整为这步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]这样应该可以了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]这样红方还是没有办法逼黑高卒走低。黑炮还是可退回放中路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]這樣似較好||如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_55]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]進卒||紅不好應付\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_55]||應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_65]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_64]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_66]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_54]||紅1將1殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_55]大陸規則紅需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]这路变化暂略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]和。见其它相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_37]炮在右侧守的话，，黑将在5或6路线区别不大。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法，和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]相五进七，卒３平４，炮五退二，炮６平９[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_40]相同局面，黑胜。||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K3c w - - 20 20]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_42][fen\u003D5k3/8c/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K4 w - - 22 21]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_45][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_49][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55][FEN\u003D5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_70]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_61]不變和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_75]||和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_73]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]一將一打象||亞規允許||大陸規則不允許[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_54]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]黑胜。||||||弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||再注：这时飞相有问题。黑卒3平4后不能炮退一守了。走炮一平二闲着可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_37]平炮走闲，等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]黑胜。红只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_47]和。[FEN\u003D5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment58_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_41]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_39]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_40]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_56]红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_55]亚规判和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]炮可先到中间将再移到左边。这样黑将无法走上，无边就不容易打死。||||分析中的第1种运炮至二路线的办法，第16回合先进帅，再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 11 16]1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN]||||和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_39]未拆解。应该黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路（炮在右侧还是可以退一守和的），致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_40]相同局面，黑胜。||||注解合并：||相同局面，黑胜。||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K3c w - - 20 20]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_41][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]飞相后，红炮不能居中将军了，会变成长杀。也不能退1防黑卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]注：余俊瑞提出的20楼着法。||||因原先和棋是其它变化，这后面前几年大概拆解了一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_36]刘宝友 2008年版象棋技战术与传统文化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_49]红违例负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_50]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_36]当时拆解的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_39][FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment91_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。以下黑有卒4进1的杀着，红以下只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]红炮将后回原位，黑还是卒4进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment98_54]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_54]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]余先生提出者樣頑強||||||（这我都解过了！）[/DhtmlXQ_comment41][DhtmlXQ_comment44]红难守[/DhtmlXQ_comment44]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_43_99]165650405646405043535040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_43_99][DhtmlXQ_comment99_48]继续常一将一杀会判黑胜的[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_48][DhtmlXQ_comment100_52]继续常一将一杀会判黑胜的[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_43_100]1656504056464050435350405343405046565040[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_43_100][DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]平哪都可以取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment102_48]黑取胜比较麻烦些[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_48][DhtmlXQ_comment101_59]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_59][DhtmlXQ_comment101_46]易和[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_46][DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]速胜之招[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46][DhtmlXQ_comment103_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_50]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_49_103]28243738[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_49_103][DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]黑胜||||后面你自己解[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_57_104]5150212543333747[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_57_104][DhtmlXQ_comment104_60]黑胜||||后面你自己解[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_60]
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-10-5 11:01
聨吟客 发表于 2021-10-5 09:09
接8樓目前討論貼

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[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_2_7_1]49395848[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_7_1][DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_2]77876444476536464939584843424434[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_2][DhtmlXQ_comment5]顽强[/DhtmlXQ_comment5][DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_28]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-10-6 08:33
剑影¤独步 发表于 2021-10-5 10:39

余先生回覆
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[DhtmlXQ_move_82_48_83]598918584858393858483837[/DhtmlXQ_move_82_48_83]
[DhtmlXQ_move_82_42_84]5969625269667678664678883747493958482547[/DhtmlXQ_move_82_42_84]
[DhtmlXQ_move_82_40_85]59696252696574444131433365455262[/DhtmlXQ_move_82_40_85]
[DhtmlXQ_move_57_37_86]8666[/DhtmlXQ_move_57_37_86]
[DhtmlXQ_move_19_33_87]47251626864640503949263646485989[/DhtmlXQ_move_19_33_87]
[DhtmlXQ_move_87_40_88]36374818[/DhtmlXQ_move_87_40_88]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_89]3949162647252636444302208684363784744050741459691454504054444030433330403343[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_89]
[DhtmlXQ_move_89_42_90]373814183848493959691858485839385051[/DhtmlXQ_move_89_42_90]
[DhtmlXQ_move_89_36_91]0224626136378606[/DhtmlXQ_move_89_36_91]
[DhtmlXQ_move_91_39_92]86464030[/DhtmlXQ_move_91_39_92]
[DhtmlXQ_move_92_40_93]4050460637380608384849395040254740410806598906462442435342244648584853528986615141405262863662523631476531306547[/DhtmlXQ_move_92_40_93]
[DhtmlXQ_move_91_38_94]4041[/DhtmlXQ_move_91_38_94]
[DhtmlXQ_move_91_37_95]8676596976563637564640506252[/DhtmlXQ_move_91_37_95]
[DhtmlXQ_move_95_43_96]4656504043425848[/DhtmlXQ_move_95_43_96]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]备注：||||[fen\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/4P4/9/2B6/3p4C/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]余20楼[/fen]||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p2C2/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]余21楼[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外，其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]注：余俊瑞21楼提出的变化。||||以下为原先拆解的变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]调整为这步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]这样应该可以了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]这样红方还是没有办法逼黑高卒走低。黑炮还是可退回放中路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]這樣似較好||如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_55]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]進卒||紅不好應付\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_55]||應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_65]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_64]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_66]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_54]||紅1將1殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_55]大陸規則紅需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]这路变化暂略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]和。见其它相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_37]炮在右侧守的话，，黑将在5或6路线区别不大。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法，和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]相五进七，卒３平４，炮五退二，炮６平９[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_40]相同局面，黑胜。||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K3c w - - 20 20]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_42][fen\u003D5k3/8c/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K4 w - - 22 21]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_45][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_49][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55][FEN\u003D5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_70]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_61]不變和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_75]||和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_73]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]一將一打象||亞規允許||大陸規則不允許[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_54]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]黑胜。||||||弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||再注：这时飞相有问题。黑卒3平4后不能炮退一守了。走炮一平二闲着可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_37]平炮走闲，等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]黑胜。红只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_47]和。[FEN\u003D5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment58_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_41]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_39]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_40]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_56]红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_55]亚规判和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]炮可先到中间将再移到左边。这样黑将无法走上，无边就不容易打死。||||分析中的第1种运炮至二路线的办法，第16回合先进帅，再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 11 16]1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN]||||和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_39]未拆解。应该黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路（炮在右侧还是可以退一守和的），致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_40]相同局面，黑胜。||||注解合并：||相同局面，黑胜。||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K3c w - - 20 20]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_41][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]飞相后，红炮不能居中将军了，会变成长杀。也不能退1防黑卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]注：余俊瑞提出的20楼着法。||||因原先和棋是其它变化，这后面前几年大概拆解了一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_36]刘宝友 2008年版象棋技战术与传统文化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_49]红违例负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_50]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_36]当时拆解的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_39][FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment91_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。以下黑有卒4进1的杀着，红以下只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]红炮将后回原位，黑还是卒4进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_move_98_42_97]596962526965464465454333374749394737394937383332504052514585254785893242403042323040324240304232[/DhtmlXQ_move_98_42_97]
[DhtmlXQ_comment98_54]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_54]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_98]66463738254750514645598943535141534341314333898062528030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]余先生提出者樣頑強||||||（这我都解过了！）[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_44]红难守[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_17]598916188986625250401828861628181611525111211848403048283031433321512824313033325131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment99_48]继续常一将一杀会判黑胜的[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_52]继续常一将一杀会判黑胜的[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]平哪都可以取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment102_48]黑取胜比较麻烦些[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_59]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_46]易和[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]速胜之招[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_50]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]黑胜||||后面你自己解[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_57_104]5150212543333747[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_57_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_60]黑胜||||后面你自己解[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_60]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-10-6 08:39
余先生又提出進將
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第05局 三气周瑜 余俊瑞提出的变化[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]备注：||||[fen\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/4P4/9/2B6/3p4C/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]余20楼[/fen]||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p2C2/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]余21楼[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34]亦和，变化与象1退3差不多。||||有人建议以象1进3为主变和棋较好。当时拆解时是按原有棋谱象1退3这路变化而来。象1退3是古谱竹谱1本的着法。后来朱鹤洲等诠注着法时改成象1进3了。导至后续局面除了黑象位置不同外，其它各子位置相同。相当于两种着法后面有一样的招法。||||[FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 w - - 14 17]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]相同局面[/FEN]||||以下为不同于象1退3（第17回合）的一些变化。转自论坛，未仔细核对。当时已拆解出象1进3中的一路和法，未注意象1退3的变化，后来发现象1退3也有相同局面，[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]注：余俊瑞21楼提出的变化。||||以下为原先拆解的变化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]调整为这步。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]这样应该可以了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]和局。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]这样红方还是没有办法逼黑高卒走低。黑炮还是可退回放中路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]這樣似較好||如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_55]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]進卒||紅不好應付\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_55]||應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment97_65]不變和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment97_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_66]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_64]黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_66]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]||黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]可能和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_54]||紅1將1殺[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_55]大陸規則紅需變著[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]||黑勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]这路变化暂略。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_33]新招[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]和。见其它相同局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]炮一平五出现局面汇总如下：||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 13 17]红方走炮一平五局面1[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K3c1 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面2[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p2C4/4B4/5p3/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面3[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D9/4k4/b4P3/6P2/9/9/1p2C4/4B4/4p4/3K1c3 b - - 11 16]红方走炮一平五局面4[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/7c1/9/6P2/p3C4/4B4/4p4/3K5 b - - 5 13]红方走炮一平五局面5[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/9/2p1C4/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 15 18]红方走炮一平五局面6[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment20_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_37]炮在右侧守的话，，黑将在5或6路线区别不大。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]飞相关键。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_37][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]诠正着法，和[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]相五进七，卒３平４，炮五退二，炮６平９[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_40]相同局面，黑胜。||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K3c w - - 20 20]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_42][fen\u003D5k3/8c/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K4 w - - 22 21]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment21_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_66]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_66]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_41][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment25_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]这样可以和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_45][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_49][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]這樣強手[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_55][FEN\u003D5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment27_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_70]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_61]不變和[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment36_75]||和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment36_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_73]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_73]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_70]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment42_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment44_64]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment44_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46_61]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]一將一打象||亞規允許||大陸規則不允許[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_61]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_60]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_54]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]要着[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_44]可能黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]不变和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment55_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]黑胜。||||||弈聪注：守和的关键点，不过这步飞相也可以等以后走。只要黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相，红炮可退到二路打卒就可。其余可用炮走闲着，或用炮拦黑炮。||||再注：这时飞相有问题。黑卒3平4后不能炮退一守了。走炮一平二闲着可以。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_37]平炮走闲，等着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]黑胜。红只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment57_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment58_47]和。[FEN\u003D5k3/9/5P3/4P4/2b6/2B6/4c4/3p5/1C3p3/4K4 b - - 27 24]相同局面[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment58_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment59_41]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment59_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment60_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment60_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_39]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_40]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment63_68]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment63_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_86]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_86]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_56]红优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_55]亚规判和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]炮可先到中间将再移到左边。这样黑将无法走上，无边就不容易打死。||||分析中的第1种运炮至二路线的办法，第16回合先进帅，再动炮至卒线平移是否可行。||[FEN\u003D4k4/9/b5P2/9/4P4/9/1p6C/4B4/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 11 16]1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。[/FEN]||||[FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN]||||和？好象黑可胜了。||||黑要胜就要从中路进攻，从中路进攻就要先想办法打掉红相。现在这局势黑炮打红相好象还有点机会，之前的18回合红相飞到三路是否较好。||||再注：该局面黑将再进一步后，红两兵好象都要被黑炮打掉，红炮退二守住不让黑卒再进形成二鬼拍门，已无法动了。||||分析：此时红前兵若再退后一步（19步红可不进兵，其它局面也很容易解决）？红炮若已在二路线呢？两种办法解决：1、红炮通过黑方卒线平移。往上推第16步变招一下。||[FEN\u003D2b2k3/9/6P2/4P4/9/2B6/2p1C4/9/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 17 19]2、第16回合红还是炮一平五将，之后飞相再退炮至帅前。[/FEN]||||||黑卒4进1走到红士角位，红要马上动炮至二路线才有用。现在要先平炮再退炮，慢了一步。之前先平到这边。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_41]只能这样。炮到中间将变成一将一杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_43]走闲着，先不到中间将，让黑退炮后再到中间将不让黑象有运转的机会。黑只能退炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_56]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_47]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_43]经yjr提出下步黑可退象后，我才发现红兵好象都要被灭。黑可胜。||||||改走炮九平八走闲着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_44]这样如何？||||此时局面红前兵若再退后一步，要平在四路才有用（黑炮在6路无法平）。第19回合红无法变招，||||||另一思路是红后兵不进，用炮想办法把黑6路赶到7路线，看很否守住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_46]这局势对红不利，红兵都要被打掉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_72]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_50]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_57]以下看红兵是否能被打掉。黑炮回中路，黑象飞中。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_79]应该已和。||||这样成和的话我觉得该变应该算最复杂的，可列为主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75_45]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment76_42]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_39]未拆解。应该黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]黑一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]？可能有问题。||||走闲着。红中兵未拱下去时更好。这样炮可再进一步，利于左右移动。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]红一将一杀。[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]黑卒拱下去即和。||||黑另一种胜法是黑炮能否回到中路进攻。这样的话上步红炮进一较好，可拦黑炮，但黑炮可回打红兵，拦不住。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment82_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment83_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]新招。同帅六平五原理一样。在黑卒走到红士角位置前能有机会飞相均可。||诠注本的胜法中有一种是相未飞，炮还在中路（炮在右侧还是可以退一守和的），致使黑卒攻下来若飞相炮在中路没机会退炮做好打卒的准备。不飞相直接被吃了，后面根本无法防守。[/DhtmlXQ_comment87_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment87_40]相同局面，黑胜。||||注解合并：||相同局面，黑胜。||||[fen\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/3p5/9/4Cp3/4K3c w - - 20 20]相同局面。[/fen][/DhtmlXQ_comment87_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_40]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment88_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment88_41][FEN\u003D5k3/9/6P2/4P4/2b6/2B6/9/3p5/1C3p3/4Kc3 b - - 25 23]相同局面，和。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment88_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]飞相后，红炮不能居中将军了，会变成长杀。也不能退1防黑卒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]注：余俊瑞提出的20楼着法。||||因原先和棋是其它变化，这后面前几年大概拆解了一下。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_36]刘宝友 2008年版象棋技战术与传统文化。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment89_49]红违例负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment89_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment90_50]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment90_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_36]当时拆解的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment91_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment91_39][FEN\u003D4k4/6P2/9/4P4/2b6/2B6/C8/3p5/5p3/4Kc3 b - - 19 20]相同局面，黑胜。[/FEN][/DhtmlXQ_comment91_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]黑胜。以下黑有卒4进1的杀着，红以下只能长杀了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment92_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment93_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment93_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]红炮将后回原位，黑还是卒4进1。[/DhtmlXQ_comment94_38]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment98_54]黑勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment98_54]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_98]66463738254750514645598943535141534341314333898062528030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_41_98]
[DhtmlXQ_comment105_44]红难守[/DhtmlXQ_comment105_44]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_106]5969435324421618[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_106][DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_17]598916188986625250401828861628181611525111211848403048283031433321512824313033325131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment99_48]继续常一将一杀会判黑胜的[/DhtmlXQ_comment99_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment100_52]继续常一将一杀会判黑胜的[/DhtmlXQ_comment100_52]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_43_100]1656504056464050435350405343405046565040[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_43_100]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]平哪都可以取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_46_102]863618113656[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_46_102]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_46_101]86461828462643332636282437472444474849395859444636374647[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_46_101]
[DhtmlXQ_comment102_48]黑取胜比较麻烦些[/DhtmlXQ_comment102_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_59]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment101_46]易和[/DhtmlXQ_comment101_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]速胜之招[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment103_50]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment103_50]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_49_103]28243738[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_49_103]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]黑胜||||后面你自己解[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_62]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_57_104]5150212543333747[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_57_104]
[DhtmlXQ_comment104_60]黑胜||||后面你自己解[/DhtmlXQ_comment104_60]
[DhtmlXQ_comment42]||余先生又提出進將[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
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作者: 剑影¤独步    时间: 2021-10-6 14:31
本帖最后由 剑影¤独步 于 2021-10-6 14:38 编辑
聨吟客 发表于 2021-10-6 08:33
余先生回覆

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[DhtmlXQ_title]第05局 三气周瑜 余俊瑞提出的变化[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]弈聪[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]没考虑到这步复杂变化[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]局面发展下去，如果应对的好就会和了。||可惜的是黑还有其它变招可以取胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]眼看6路将计划不成，只好再生一计：将6平5！盯住中兵，再之后把黑炮平开准备发攻，红这时难守了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2021-10-6 20:45
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